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Doctor Who: Podshock - Episode 25
Authored by: orange_b on Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 01:54 PM EST
great review guys loved it looking forward to podshock 26 keep up the good work.
Doctor Who: Podshock - Episode 25
Authored by: seanhuxter on Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 02:56 PM EST
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Nice commentary. I guess it's too much to ask for you to do them for each new episode...? But I do have some comments. I roughly scribbled down some notes during the commentary in order to comment on them: <b>SPOILER ALERT:</b> for those who haven't heard the commentary, or seen Christmas Invasion, but then why are you reading this podcast's replies if you haven't heard it yet??? 1) I didn't get that the crushed Santa BECAME the tree... from what I heard, the tree was delivered while Rose and Mickey were out. Jackie must have had time to dismantle her own, and put this one up. And if it was the crushed Santa in new form, why did one of the other three Santas have to control it from a remote unit? This whole thing seemed absurd to me anyway. First, if the Pilot Fish were after the energy from the TARDIS, yes, they might have homed in on Rose (since she was recently filled with it) but why set up shop on the High Street _expecting_ her to show up? Why would she be there? So why would they be there to ambush her? And if they wanted the Doctor, why go through the pains of having a delvery man deliver a remote control tree whose obvious function was to destroy, not capture, the Doctor? Why not just go in there and take the Doctor while Jackie was alone with him? (Interesting side note: The remote control was actually the Character Options Dalek remote some of us now have in our possession.) 2) Two points of devotion not touched upon in the commentary (I know, you can't hit every point, you'd never have enough time) but the most powerful one was when Rose put the Sonic Screwdriver in the Doctor's hand and just said "Help me". And he woke up. This was the most powerful scene. This showed that the Doctor was so dedicated to protecting Rose that her cry for help even pulled him out of a regeneration coma! Bravo to the writing team for that little gem. 2a) While the Doctor was in bed, there was a lot of commentary about Rose and Mickey's devotion to each other, and the Doctor, but no one commented on the fact that Jackie had fallen asleep ON the Doctor. She took on the role of the loving mother to a sick child. It was an uncharacteristic show of devotion from Jackie who until now sort of showed an outward disdain for the Doctor for binding himself with her daughter and causing her no end of worry and grief - yet here she is, seemingly more devoted to him than the rest. Another great emotional scene. 3) By the way, and this relates to the cup of tea thing, if you listened to the RTD commentary, you will discover an interesting fact. Got your 17-30 December Radio Times handy??? No? I got a mate to ship me three of them from the UK as soon as they came out. If you look at the extensive article on "The Christmas Invasion" and spell out the paragraph headers, you will discover something cute. RTD gives it away in his commentary, but I thought it was a great touch. VERY Douglas Adams. 4) As for Eccleston's regeneration scene, I'm with you guys on this. When he says he's about to change it is an incredibly touching moment, and mostly because Eccleston nailed it beyond perfection! You could tell he felt the loss himself, and what it would mean to Rose once the reality of it struck her. It's one of the reasons I'm going to miss Ecclesdoc so much. Thankfully Tennatndoc is going to kick butt and take names, so it's all good. 5) As for Star Wars references, I thought when the Sycorax cut off his hand, I swear he was going to say "I am your father" or something... it was just TOOOOOOOO close to Star Wars. Right hand cut off... same as Luke. 6) One of you asked why they waited so long to destroy the ship if Torchwood had that kind of power. Well Harriet's assistant had just now informed her that they were ready. Obviously it took some time for them to charge up the weapon, and to prepare it for use. But more importantly, why didn't Harriet try to play for time until it was ready? I'm guessing that because of how little people know about Torchwood, she had no idea what kind of response to her plea for help would bring. She was hopeful obviously, that it would be of help, but I'm sure she didn't know the awesome power they held, not to that extent anyway, until she was told they had a weapon and could fire upon the ship. Also, she didn't know when or even _if_ Torchwood could actually be of any practical help. Also, the "Doesn't she look tired" is supposedly a reference to Maragaret Thatcher during the Falklands war. I wasn't following too closely at the time, and I may have gotten this from the RTD commentary, but a similar line was used on Thatcher, and it practically took her government down. 7) Lots of talk about the love between the Doctor and Rose. Quite obviously it's there, but as you all agree, it's not a sexual thing, not overtly, not like two humans. But you're also right in that the relationship was similar to that between Jon Pertwee's Doc and Jo Grant. When she announced she was leaving him to get married, you could see his response was like being kicked in the gut. He was completely taken aback, and completely hurt. Yet it was more of a fatherly hurt than a lover's hurt. It's very hard to describe, but a similar relationship is shared between the current Doctor and Rose. Good call on the Jo Grant connection. That's enough for now. I've only listened so far to the commentary, and am about to resume my listening now. Great coup getting Triple B on... I was a big fan of hers when she was on Cool Shite. Sean. --- One solid hope is worth a cartload of uncertainties.
Doctor Who: Podshock - Episode 25
Authored by: tarashnat on Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 03:22 PM EST
It's like Christmas and Valentine's Day all wrapped up in one today. I'm listening to the commentary track without watching the episode... even way better in my imagination! Now, the prime minister's use of Torchwood sort of takes the winds out of the sails of the "he's not going to turn this into a war" line. Or maybe she doesn't want a war, just wants the menace to go away... sounds familiar. D@mn continuity announcers! Nice job on the commentary, I can't wait to get the vanilla 2006 DVD to cue up your commentary and the BBC commentary from the official site. I want to hear you guys interrupt RTD & co... I wish we had a picture of Ken with the multi-phone headgear on the site. (Sorry, Ken, the trials that Louis puts you through for us listeners...) I liked Chris and Ashley's review... I'm glad they enjoyed the episode as much as you guys did. Taras --- Doctor Who: Podshock - Episode 25
Authored by: Louis on Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 03:59 PM EST
Thanks for the great comments on Episode 25. Happy Valentines Day! LOL -- We meant to do the commentary on Boxing Day in December... Anyway, we finally did it... only 6 or 7 weeks after it's premiere. Still, it was before December 2006. Wow Sean... great additional comments to go along with TCI you made. As often is the case doing podcasts and now commentaries... there is so much you want to cover and mention but can't squeeze it in the alloted time. Often if I go back and listen to something previously recorded, I will say to myself, "Oh, I wanted to mention this fact or that or whatever." Perhaps that is where Doctor Who: Aftershock mini podcast episodes may help out when needed. Happy Christmas everyone!..... in February! Cheers, --- AshleE, not AshleY
Authored by: 7ofSpades on Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 07:46 PM EST
Hiya everyone, just wanted to make this clear before it gets out of hand -
TripleB is Ashlee - with an E, not Ashley - with a Y!
Glad you enjoyed our double-hander! I hope I can find ways to involve her in my segment more. Cheers, Chris. ---
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