Subject: [Spoilers] TW S2 Epi.2 'Sleeper'

Posted on: January 23 2008 @ 06:08 PM
By: daveac

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There will be Spoilers



Well we're up and running and the Captain Jack intro is back!



Good solid episode with a high 'Gore' rating - and a real 'science fiction' theme to up the tension levels.



The 'aliens' were well realised and and the 'threat level' turned up a few notches.



Looks like the series is off to a flying start.



Cheers, daveac



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[Spoilers] TW S2 Epi.2 'Sleeper'

Posted on: January 23 2008 @ 07:40 PM
By: cybercolin

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I have to agree Dave, I really enjoyed a Torchwood episode for once. Don't worry i'll save my insults for a later episode. They've got to slip up somewhere! Anyway, heres my review:

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Well, that’s better! None of the team tried to sleep with anything this week, (okay Owen panicked for a second!) AND we had a decent story, for once!

The story begins with a ‘run-of-the-mill mass murder’, after thieves broke into a house. Sadly for them, one of the occupants was an alien ‘sleeper cell’ and they were killed, quite horribly! To make it worse, it was a woman! (If no women write in now, they never will!)

So the team, quite literally, nick the woman and before you can say ‘Ow! That hurts!’ she is being probed as badly as an illegal immigrant! And like a probe into an illegal immigrant, she (or to be fair, her ‘alien’ part) fools the team and escapes the hub and before you know it, other sleeper cells are causing havoc in Cardiff city centre. Much like a normal Saturday night, to be fair!

The acting seems to have gone up a notch, again, although I’m not too sure on Ianto trying to be funny. Just make the tea! The effects were better, the explosions made me jump! Not too sure on the ‘Terminator 2’ rip-off, nor the baby ‘killing’ but it is (supposed) to be science fiction!

Overall a big improvement on the ‘buddy’ episode that was ‘Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang’, although something original won’t go a miss! With the remaining ‘sleeper cells’ still out there, I’m sure they’ll be back, which is fine by me. Anything but pointless shagging scenes!

9/10

Next Week: I watch the next episode with a magnifying glass, as I see if Jack still has the hole in his coat, where the male sleeper cell stabbed him!


[Spoilers] TW S2 Epi.2 'Sleeper'

Posted on: January 24 2008 @ 02:29 AM
By: tarashnat

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Terminology: singular=sleeper agent; group=sleeper cell.

It was great to have a story with a plot. One that sorta makes sense. OK, I think that some of the sleepers blew themselves up too quickly, but then again, they are alien.

I really enjoyed watching this episode. This shows us what Torchwood could be, if they keep to the theme(s) of the series. And we got all this without the requisite snog/shag-fest. Hopefully, this is a sign of things to come in the series.


[Spoilers] TW S2 Epi.2 'Sleeper'

Posted on: January 24 2008 @ 02:35 AM
By: Louis

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It seemed hollow for me. Perhaps if there was some motivation explained on why the sleeper cell were here instead just merely wanting to "take over" or "launch an attack" or whatever the hastily stated in this story.

Seemed like some ingredients were missing in this meal.

Cheers,
Louis


[Spoilers] TW S2 Epi.2 'Sleeper'

Posted on: January 24 2008 @ 09:23 AM
By: DarthSkeptical

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As reported back in June, this episode was writer James Moran's initial effort for the team at Upper Boat. Based on its strengths I find myself in high hopes for his upcoming episode of Doctor Who. It had a lovely balance of emotion and fear, with some nice continuity touches for the well-used regulars. Nice to have an ensemble cast used as an ensemble.

Colin Teague's direction was back to its taut, moody Torchwood-iness, thankfully far afield of his DW/SJA camp.

The only problem — and it's a big one — is that the whole affair was highly derivative of Battlestar Galactica. Granted, if he was going to copy from somewhere, at least Moran chose some place good, but most of the drama — well-delivered as it may have been — was still wholesale retread from a source Moran almost certainly knew about. Beth might as well have been Boomer.

That said, the sleeper agents had my attention way more than most human-imitative species, and I wouldn't mind finding out more about the culture that employs them. Perhaps the mythos will carry over into Doctor Who.

Who knows? Maybe this was the first wave of a new Zygon threat. There certainly was something nicely organic (i.e. Zygonesque) about the technology they employed.


[Spoilers] TW S2 Epi.2 'Sleeper'

Posted on: January 24 2008 @ 11:41 PM
By: Doctor Whoovie

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Wow! Easily the best episode of Torchwood.

Intelligent story. No shagging.

Looks to me like an ongoing storyline too. Perhaps
this and ongoing Captain John storylines to fill the majority of the series.

Seemed almost like an episode of the New Avengers to me (or the Avengers of that matter).

Lets hope more to follow.


[Spoilers] TW S2 Epi.2 'Sleeper'

Posted on: January 25 2008 @ 10:51 AM
By: Tin Dog Podcast

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[Spoilers] TW S2 Epi.2 'Sleeper'

Posted on: January 25 2008 @ 05:54 PM
By: rocko

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I did enjoy the episode (and the lack of snogging/shagging), although I agree with Louis that something seemed lacking...

The mood of the music was off somehow for me, especially during the drive to the facility where the warheads were kept.

It seems Ianto is going to be this season's comic relief! ("He is dashing- you have to give him that.", etc)


[Spoilers] TW S2 Epi.2 'Sleeper'

Posted on: January 26 2008 @ 09:48 AM
By: daveac

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On a Digital Spy thread 'salochin' mentions that he thinks this episode 'Sleeper' was filmed first - as the Captain John episodes will have been made in a block.

When I think back to the start of 'Kiss,kiss - Bang,bang' and the big 'teaster' at the start I'm not sure.

What do other's think? (and does it matter Confused )

Cheers, daveac


[Spoilers] TW S2 Epi.2 'Sleeper'

Posted on: January 26 2008 @ 01:03 PM
By: Linquel

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My lack of enthusiasm for the show is reflected by how late I'm posting about the episode. My wife and I watched it a few days ago. Overall, we liked it better than KKBB. There were still a few things that were annoying, and it did feel a little hollow like Louis said. But for the most part it engaged us. I have yet to watch any of the new Declassifieds, so I don't know if any insights came out there. I'd probably give this show a 3, maybe a 3.5 if that were available.


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Posted on: January 26 2008 @ 06:38 PM
By: mad4plaid

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Linquel - no useful background in the Declassified. Some interesting information on reaction to Torchwood's filming this episode right after the attempt to blow up the Glasgow airport by a sleeper cell, though.

I enjoyed this episode. I'm going to leave it at that, really, as it didn't really stick with me. But the tension factor was up there during the show.

Except - I didn't miss the voice-over intro. Wish that would go away again.


[Spoilers] TW S2 Epi.2 'Sleeper'

Posted on: January 26 2008 @ 11:51 PM
By: Linquel

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[QUOTE BY= mad4plaid]Except - I didn't miss the voice-over intro. Wish that would go away again.[/QUOTE]

I did notice that they changed the ending of the voice-over intro..instead of "And you gotta be ready" now it's "And we're ready" or something like that.


[Spoilers] TW S2 Epi.2 'Sleeper'

Posted on: January 27 2008 @ 10:58 AM
By: seanhuxter

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[QUOTE BY= Louis]

It seemed hollow for me. Perhaps if there was some motivation explained on why the sleeper cell were here instead just merely wanting to "take over" or "launch an attack" or whatever the hastily stated in this story.

Seemed like some ingredients were missing in this meal.

Cheers,
Louis[/QUOTE]

I think I can answer that. It was quick, but if you looked carefully around the city during the city shots something unusual could be seen that explains the whole thing.



Sean.


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Posted on: January 27 2008 @ 11:58 AM
By: Tardis-Knight

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I thought it was alright.

Although I thought last week's probably had a bit too much going on, I certainly preferred that to this (for all it's faults, in the week which it was available I gladly watched KKBB twice. I'm certainly not about to look up Sleeper on my catch up TV section).

I too thought it was very heavy on the Battlestar Galactica side (and maybe that explains my lack of enthusiasm, as it simply doesnt stand up when directly compared to that).

I found it ok, maybe even good - but certainly not great.

3 (maybe 3.5) outta 5.


[Spoilers] TW S2 Epi.2 'Sleeper'

Posted on: February 04 2008 @ 05:15 AM
By: daveac

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[QUOTE BY= Tardis-Knight] I thought it was alright.

Although I thought last week's probably had a bit too much going on, I certainly preferred that to this (for all it's faults, in the week which it was available I gladly watched KKBB twice. I'm certainly not about to look up Sleeper on my catch up TV section).

I too thought it was very heavy on the Battlestar Galactica side (and maybe that explains my lack of enthusiasm, as it simply doesnt stand up when directly compared to that).

I found it ok, maybe even good - but certainly not great.

3 (maybe 3.5) outta 5. [/QUOTE]

CIA yesterday (3rd Feb) was all about this Torchwood episode:-

here

Cheers, daveac


[Spoilers] TW S2 Epi.2 'Sleeper'

Posted on: February 04 2008 @ 06:38 AM
By: Tin Dog Podcast

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[QUOTE BY= seanhuxter] [QUOTE BY= Louis]

It seemed hollow for me. Perhaps if there was some motivation explained on why the sleeper cell were here instead just merely wanting to "take over" or "launch an attack" or whatever the hastily stated in this story.

Seemed like some ingredients were missing in this meal.

Cheers,
Louis[/QUOTE]

I think I can answer that. It was quick, but if you looked carefully around the city during the city shots something unusual could be seen that explains the whole thing.



Sean.
[/QUOTE]

feeling thick... what am I looking for?

the gafiti in the doorway?


[Spoilers] TW S2 Epi.2 'Sleeper'

Posted on: February 04 2008 @ 08:37 AM
By: LanaiaD

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I was curious if the grafitti was some tpye of thread. In the first episode when the old lady is talking about bloody Torchwood there is some grafitti on the pole next to her and then when the team are investigating the guy Captain Jon killed there is grafitti there was well that looks similar.


[Spoilers] TW S2 Epi.2 'Sleeper'

Posted on: April 14 2008 @ 07:33 PM
By: Chase

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Just saw this and it didn't go the way I thought it would...but is that good or not? I sort of liked it at times but TORCHWOOD and this ep in particular is like...looking into a gutter. DW and its spinoffs for me should be looking skyward. I don't know who..Ray Harryhausen I think, stated that the movies and tv should be looking heavenward but instead they look downward into the gutter...TW is like that, more like falling into a sewer. I mean do we really need to see or hear a baby carriage being hit by a car? Do we need to see man killed infront of his family and then have the mother slain too? Were the kids killed as well? Really, TW is just...gross to me. I hoped it would get better and sometimes it hits high notes but for the most part, it really reeks like an overflowing sewer...


[Spoilers] TW S2 Epi.2 'Sleeper'

Posted on: April 14 2008 @ 08:26 PM
By: daveac

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[QUOTE BY= Chase] I mean do we really need to see or hear a baby carriage being hit by a car? Do we need to see man killed infront of his family and then have the mother slain too? Were the kids killed as well? Really, TW is just...gross to me. I hoped it would get better and sometimes it hits high notes but for the most part, it really reeks like an overflowing sewer... [/QUOTE]

If ever you've watched a film or TV where the hero ultimately had to kill the baddies to end the conflict - they (the writers) - you will know, always have to show the baddies doing dispicable things to made it (quote) justifiable (un quote)

But yes - Torchwood is NOT Doctor Who.

Cheers, daveac


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