Subject: Colour recovery process

Posted on: December 11 2008 @ 09:50 AM
By: hypocaust

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Here's something to tentatively get excited about.



As people in the UK probably already know, an episode of the sitcom Dad's Army originally shown in colour but now only available as a black and white film print has had it's colour restored using some newly developed software and will be airing this Saturday in colour for the first time in nearly 40 years.



This is NOT colorization it is colour recovery so the result is the original colour not a "best guess" at what the colours might have been which is what you get from colorization.



The colour information is extracted from chroma dots recorded on to the b/w film prints.

Some more details here:



http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2008/12_december/09/dadsarmy.shtml

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/dec/11/digital-video-restoration-dad-s-army



Anyway, this is obviously very exciting for the Jon Pertwee era of Who which currently has several episodes only existing as b/w film recordings.



Please note the process only works if the chroma dots were recorded in the first place and I understand it's already known this is not the case for Mind of Evil episode 1 but let's be hopeful that we're luckier with the rest of the Pertwee episodes.



In any case even if it turns out it can't be applied to any episdoes of Doctor Who it's still a fantastic process which has exciting prospects for a huge amount of British TV in the archives.



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Colour recovery process

Posted on: December 11 2008 @ 12:32 PM
By: T Baker(notTom)

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That would be great Exclaimation

We can finally see the first episode of "Invasion of the Dinosaurs" in color after all this time, plus all thoses other episodes from the John Pertwee era that were done in color that now only exist in B/W.

The show started color with the first Jon Pertwee story "Spearhead From Space" and every story since then. It would be nice to see "The Ambassadors of Death" completely in color, instead of a mixture of color and B/W. (When the color segment was missing they spliced in a B/W piece to fill in the missing section to complete the story.)

This promises good things for the classic shows.


Colour recovery process

Posted on: December 12 2008 @ 09:08 AM
By: DarthSkeptical

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I know this is inevitable, and that if it's at all possible to restore the color, the Restoration Team will opt to do that over releasing stories in a monochrome/color mix. And as a fan of the goals of restoration, I notionally support it.

But B&W Pertwee looks so COOL. I've gotten used to some Pertwee being monochrome. Not only do I want them to release the monochrome episodes as is, I want them to clean up the video, then monochrome entire serials. "Invasion of the Dinosaurs" plays way better in B&W. I can't even imagine "Mind of Evil" in color; it's perfectly appropriate to the Cold War, 1960s vibe for it to be monochrome, just as with "Ambassadors of Death".

Thank God consumers can manually control color on playback!


Colour recovery process

Posted on: December 12 2008 @ 09:56 AM
By: shockeye07

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[QUOTE BY= DarthSkeptical] I know this is inevitable, and that if it's at all possible to restore the color, the Restoration Team will opt to do that over releasing stories in a monochrome/color mix. And as a fan of the goals of restoration, I notionally support it.

But B&W Pertwee looks so COOL. I've gotten used to some Pertwee being monochrome. Not only do I want them to release the monochrome episodes as is, I want them to clean up the video, then monochrome entire serials. "Invasion of the Dinosaurs" plays way better in B&W. I can't even imagine "Mind of Evil" in color; it's perfectly appropriate to the Cold War, 1960s vibe for it to be monochrome, just as with "Ambassadors of Death".

Thank God consumers can manually control color on playback! [/QUOTE]

Sorry but I am really looking forward to seeing Pertwee Who as I remember it, in bright shiny colour. We were one of the first houses on our street to get colour TV & my earliest memories of Dr Who are the third Doctor story's in full glorious colour. Roll on all of "Planet of the Daleks in full colour. As a big fan of "Dad's Army" I am looking forward to seeing tomorrow's episode. I see it is preceded by a programme called "Missing Presumed Wiped" which will hopefully have some Dr Who content.


Colour recovery process

Posted on: December 12 2008 @ 12:03 PM
By: hypocaust

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There was an item about the process on Newsnight last night. It briefly mentions Doctor Who as this is what inspired the creation of the process in the first place.
You can view the Newsnight report here.


Colour recovery process

Posted on: December 12 2008 @ 12:57 PM
By: indiana_brian

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If I recall, there are some Pertwee stories that don't have the necessary chroma-dots in the films to recover the color. We might still have some incomplete color stories or stories with a colorized episode or two.

Maybe someone in the forum has a list they can post of which ones have that information in the film recordings.


Colour recovery process

Posted on: January 07 2009 @ 05:06 PM
By: hypocaust

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Well, it's now known that the colour recovery process has been applied to Planet of the Daleks episode 3 and been combined with traditional colorization techniques to get the best of both processes.

As I mentioned in another thread the restored Planet of the Daleks is scheduled for DVD release in the UK some time in late 2009/early 2010, packaged alongside Frontier in Space.
Read more about the technical aspects of the colour recovery process and see screen captures here.


Colour recovery process

Posted on: April 27 2009 @ 01:35 PM
By: hypocaust

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Steve Roberts of the Restoration Team has just posted this still from The Mind of Evil which currently only exists as black and white telerecordings but is now having Colour Recovery applied.



The image was posted in a discussion about colour recovery on The Mind of Evil at Roobarb's DVD forum
(you need to be a member to view this forum)

Bear in mind that the DVDs are worked on often a year or more in advance of release so don't expect a DVD being announced for quite a while yet.

Also it's worth noting as I said in an earlier post above, The Mind of Evil episode 1 doesn't have any colour subcarrier information recorded onto the film (the image above is from episode 2) and it's not yet been stated how it will be presented.
It could be left as black and white or be computer colorized in the traditional manner (rather than having actual colour information recovered).


Colour recovery process

Posted on: April 27 2009 @ 04:58 PM
By: shockeye07

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Wow this is very exciting. Really looking forward to seeing Mind of Evil in colour. Eek! Eek! Eek!


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