Torchwood: sigh. It’s just…really a lame rip off of so many other series, isn’ it? I mean think about Special Unit 5. There’s almost nothing original about this show. Capt Jack would best have served DW by being on DW. He’s much more likable on DW. I find Torchwood is like looking into a vomit covered gutter. Ray Harryhausen once wrote and said or both that movies and TV should take us up to the stars and lift us most of the time not have us looking into the sewers…and depressing us. Torchwood is the latter…it’s gut wrenching, depressing, it lacks the faith of the main characters and their goodness. It’s really awful almost all the time. I can think of maybe a handful of eps from both seasons that might just be okay but really I tend to avoid this show if I can because it’s so…faithless and so routine so often. I love the cast though. Wouldn't the crew of this show and the writers be best if they served DW and the entire production be spent on more DW ratherthanTW
Faithless? Of all the words that could be applied to Torchwood, "faithless" is the last one that springs to mind. The whole thing is predicated on the hope of all the characters that Torchwood will make them better people. It's Jack's way of honorably serving (and waiting for) the Doctor. It's Tosh's way to save her mother's life and to explore the wonders of the universe. It's Ianto and Owen's way to cope with extreme personal loss. "Dark" is not the antithesis of "hope".
Don't get me wrong. I think there are some faults with the program. And I suppose I generally do take your point that it's actually not as original as I would have preferred. But it's hardly this bleak, moral-less pit you make it out to be.
Oh, and as for Jack, I think there's a difference between TW S1 and S2 Jack, largely because of the events of DW S3. I don't think there's much difference between the Jack of S2 TW and the Jack of, say, "Boom Town"/"Parting of the Ways". I actually think he works just fine as an occasional companion, and better as the star of his own show.
Ultimately, what Torchwood S2 attempted to thematically tackle are those clandestine reasons why people freely choose a career that envelops and commandeers every aspect-every free second-of their lives. On one hand, Tosh used her ingenuity to save her mother's life, but she inevitably uses Torchwood to withdraw from an unforgiving and unsuccessful social life. Faced with tragedy, Torchwood is only one of several ways Owen uses to anesthetize his personal pain. Ianto pursued Torchwood with all the crazed vigor of a devoted groupie or disciple. He's the typical outsider looking for a place to belong. Although one would think normal police work would provide enough excitement for anyone, Gwen Cooper joins Torchwood as a way to escape the mundanities of a status quo life. Then again, this aspect of Gwen's story is more of a season 1 concern. For me, the compelling part of season 2 was watching each character pay a high price for this demanding lifestyle.
That being said...
As much as I enjoyed season 2 of Torchwood, I still find it somewhat distressing having to occasionally discuss the show in a serious manner. It's kind of like attempting to write a dissertation on the political subtext found in the song "Funkytown" by Lipps Inc.-an amusing pursuit, but ultimately futile ...and somewhat silly.
If you don't like it don't watch it please...
It's really as simple as that.
[QUOTE BY= romana_II] If you don't like it don't watch it please...[/QUOTE]
Sorry I gotta say it. Thus was born Reality TV.
In all fairness to Harryhausen, he lived in a very different time. Movies about drug use, as an example of harsh reality, were rare when he was in the business. These days, movies are dark, filmed in blue light, show the gritty reality (supposedly) of life on the streets. TV shows are doing the same.
Torchwood is a product of its time like most TV shows.
As for it being like other shows, what isn't? How many cop shows are there?
All I know is that until Fringe came along, nothing filled the "X-Files Gap" better. Now, we have "Pimeval", "Supernatural", that new one on Sci Fi with Amanda Tapping, and several other shows trying to fill the aching void.
To me, Torchwood fills it rather nicely, but not as perfectly as "Fringe", which is a show I'm really beginning to like in the same way I liked "X-Files".
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