Subject: The Wire

Posted on: March 13 2009 @ 02:14 PM
By: Idiom

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Not Sci-fi, I know but damn good telly nonetheless. Any other fans out there? I'm now onto the third series and absolutely loving it. I'm a Brit (but Doctor Who notwithstanding) I have to say that American drama is miles ahead of any UK drama these days. This is an amazing series.



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Posted on: March 13 2009 @ 04:44 PM
By: Tardis-Knight

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I've seen all of it now (I saw series 5 recently - I watched it in a weekend) and I think it's the best US TV program ever. I don't say that lightly; personally speaking I really rate it that much.

It's a slightly acquired taste, because it's often not a gung-ho shoot 'em up type thing.

Over 5 series, with a couple of dozen excellent characters, and full dozen or so extra-excellent characters, it was just the best cop/robber/street/urban show I've seen....

The obvious comparison is The Sopranos. I absolutely adored the first 2 series of that - but as it went on, it became less and less magic. Core characters went off in some strange directions, and no-one (with the exception of Tony) remained remotely likeable. It continued to have it's moments, but it didnt get me the way it did in the early series - not even close. If in turn you take The Wire, now that it's all played out, I respect it even more. Big fat stand-out point would be series 2. At the time, I liked it, but it's only in hindsight I think you could make a good case for it being the strongest series of all.

Wonderful wonderful stuff. & infinitely re-watchable.


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Posted on: March 14 2009 @ 12:09 PM
By: shockeye07

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Funny I was thinking about this programme when listening to the Hitchhikers Guide to Brit Sci-Fi podcast when Ken Deep said "name me a good US TV series". The Wire is excellent. TV (US, UK or anywhere) at it's very best. I've just watched the DVD box set for series ! & am about to watch series 2


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Posted on: March 14 2009 @ 02:22 PM
By: Idiom

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I was surprised to read that two of the main stars are British. The actors that play Stringer Bell and McNulty (an old Etonian nonetheless!). McNulty's British accent scene in series 2 now makes much more sense and becomes even funnier!


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Posted on: March 14 2009 @ 02:45 PM
By: Tardis-Knight

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Did anyone ever catch "Line Of Fire"? That was a cop(fbi)/mob show - it was cancelled after the first series, which was a surprise because I thought it was really strong.

I've just googled it, and there's not even much info on it on the net.


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Posted on: March 25 2009 @ 02:55 PM
By: Tardis-Knight

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if anyone hasn't seen The Wire - it begins 30/3/09 on BBC2!


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Posted on: March 25 2009 @ 03:52 PM
By: barnabeee

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[QUOTE BY= Idiom] I'm a Brit (but Doctor Who notwithstanding) I have to say that American drama is miles ahead of any UK drama these days. This is an amazing series.
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Not a diss of "The Wire" by any stretch of the imagination - since its definitely solid drama. But do you really think that? There is very little *great* US tv right now ("The Wire" has been gone a year now!). In the last few months, the UK has had some fantastic stuff that would never show up in the US - The ITV drama with Peter Davison "Unforgiven", "Being Human", which is absolutely fantastic - best new genre series in a long long time, The Swedish detective drama with Kenneth Branagh at the end of last year, and "Red Riding" that's just finished on C4.

And "Ashes to Ashes" Series 2 any week now!

If only the US could be so lucky!!!!


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Posted on: March 25 2009 @ 06:40 PM
By: Idiom

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Over the last five or six years, I would definitely say that the best drama has come from the US: the Sopranos, the Wire and currently, Dexter, The Riches, The Sarah Connor Chronicles, Battlestar Galactica. That's not to say that the UK doesn't do good stuff but I've seen nothing that is a patch on the Wire.


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Posted on: March 25 2009 @ 08:19 PM
By: Doctor Whoovie

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HUNGRY !


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Posted on: March 27 2009 @ 10:38 AM
By: barnabeee

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[QUOTE BY= Idiom] Over the last five or six years, I would definitely say that the best drama has come from the US: the Sopranos, the Wire and currently, Dexter, The Riches, The Sarah Connor Chronicles, Battlestar Galactica. That's not to say that the UK doesn't do good stuff but I've seen nothing that is a patch on the Wire.[/QUOTE]

Well, "The Sopranos" goes back to 1999, believe it or not!

And in that time you are talking about "Life on Mars", "Blackpool", "State of Play", "Being Human", "Ashes to Ashes" - not too mention "Doctor Who", "Torchwood" and numerous TV movies etc. I'd say the UK stacks up pretty darned well to be honest with you! Smile


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Posted on: March 27 2009 @ 11:00 AM
By: Idiom

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[QUOTE BY= barnabeee]

Well, "The Sopranos" goes back to 1999, believe it or not!

And in that time you are talking about "Life on Mars", "Blackpool", "State of Play", "Being Human", "Ashes to Ashes" - not too mention "Doctor Who", "Torchwood" and numerous TV movies etc. I'd say the UK stacks up pretty darned well to be honest with you! Smile[/QUOTE]
Yeah, began in 1999 but went on for a few years after that - State of Play finished before the Sopranos did. Look, I'm not saying that UK drama is terrible or the worst in the world or anything like that. I'm just saying that in my opinion (that's just 'opinion') I feel that US drama has been superior. Remember, this is totally subjective and maybe everybody disagrees with me. That doesn't matter - what matters is my own truth that I perceive: that these dramas have appealed more to my taste than a lot of British drama. I would even say that I preferred the first two seasons of Battlestar to any of the new Who. That doesn't mean that I hate Doctor Who. Just expressing an opinion. Anyway, have you see the Wire? That's the real point!


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Posted on: March 27 2009 @ 11:47 AM
By: barnabeee

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Yes, I have seen "The Wire". And found it to be very good television! (Unlike *most* US TV, IMO!) For me it lost its way a little in Series 4, without the compelling villains from the first 3 series, but I really liked Series 5. My favourite was undoubtely Series 2, though, which was very well put together.

Having said that, I was a big fan of "Homicide: Life on the Street" from much of the same team - and find that to be more satisfying viewing - mainly due to liking the characters more, and having someone to root for. I didn't get that in "The Wire" at all - everybody's pretty awful in one way or other!

BSG better than New Who? Not in my book. (I've watched about 2/3 of the first 2 years, but series 3 has been sitting on the DVD shelf for a year!) But each to their own!

And to be honest - its very difficult to compare US tv to UK tv since the formats are so different. "State of Play" and "Blackpool" are 2 perfect 6 part stories. And don't need any more or any less time to tell those stories. Similarly the UK "Life on Mars" is 16 episodes - and told the story it wanted to tell. Often US TV suffers from having to stretch the story to fill a "season".


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Posted on: March 30 2009 @ 03:06 PM
By: barnabeee

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Interesting article on the debate here:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/adoration-of-us-television-is-dangerous-nonsense-1656865.html


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Posted on: March 30 2009 @ 03:24 PM
By: T Baker(notTom)

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[QUOTE BY= barnabeee] Interesting article on the debate here:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/adoration-of-us-television-is-dangerous-nonsense-1656865.html[/QUOTE]

Let's make a link out of that:

Adoration of US Television is "Dangerous Nonsense"


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Posted on: March 30 2009 @ 07:15 PM
By: mad4plaid

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Dominic West, who stars in The Wire, has added his opinion on UK TV on the BBC site:

Wire Star Criticises UK Drama


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