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Idiom
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Zolfa-Thurans just cos of the great look and the prickly attitude(and an underated episode in my opinion) - reminded me an awful lot of an old British TV show called the Adventure Game!
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That Neil Guy
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| Monday, May 05 2008 @ 04:50 PM EDT |
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Original Omega -- because I've never seen Arc of Infinity.
Lame answer, I know, but true.
Cornell or Moffat? |
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DarthSkeptical
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| Monday, May 05 2008 @ 05:02 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: That Neil Guy] Original Omega -- because I've never seen Arc of Infinity.
Lame answer, I know, but true.
Cornell or Moffat? |
| Moffat, hands down. Proven by consistent awards performance. Also, when you look at the breadth and depth of Cornell's work, it's not all Human Nature calibre. There's some real crap in there (as he himself has even admitted). So far, Moffat's not (seriously) disappointed with any Doctor Who material, ever. This is in part because he's got a lesser body of Who work, but it's also because he's not quite as "in awe" of the writing assignments as, I think, Cornell is. His work consistently shows a greater ability to poke fun at the conventions of Doctor Who, and in so doing forces us to look at the material anew. Cornell is more a latter-day Terrance Dicks (no terrible thing, surely), while Moffat has no real analogue in the original series.
There's also little doubt in my mind that his original characters have been far more memorable than Cornell's, at least insofar as the new series material is concerned. Give me Reinette, Sally Sparrow and Captain Jack any day of the week over Joan and Pete Tyler.
Most importantly, though, Moffat has been significant to actually making the cause-and-effect nature of time travel a part of the show to a degree it really wasn't before. In the new series, Cornell has shown us more about why the past must remain the same, whereas Moffat has efficiently demonstrated how you can deftly leave all those restrictions to one side. |
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"I think of myself as ambitious in casting terms, and I know that Bonnie [Langford] has the potential to make the part totally unirritating . . ." — JNT, 1986
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DarthSkeptical
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| Monday, May 05 2008 @ 05:25 PM EDT |
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Sorry, I didn't give much of an explanation as to why I chose Moffat over Cornell, so I went back to fix that up before moving on to the next question.
A visual choice this time out. Here are two comic images of the Tenth Doctor. On the left is the typical-until-2008 work of Mike Collins. On the right is the new-to-2008 style of Dan McDaid. Which do you prefer?
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"I think of myself as ambitious in casting terms, and I know that Bonnie [Langford] has the potential to make the part totally unirritating . . ." — JNT, 1986
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That Neil Guy
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| Monday, May 05 2008 @ 05:29 PM EDT |
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That was a most excellent commentary piece, Senor Darth, on the merits of Cornell v Moffat. Thanks for working up such a thoughtful entry to what is, by and large, just a fun, fluffy thread. Well done indeed.
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DarthSkeptical
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| Monday, May 05 2008 @ 05:38 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: That Neil Guy] That was a most excellent commentary piece, Senor Darth, on the merits of Cornell v Moffat. Thanks for working up such a thoughtful entry to what is, by and large, just a fun, fluffy thread. Well done indeed.
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| | Heh, thanks for asking the question. That one's been percolating for a while. I know the Moffat/Cornell split is a common topic of discussion in fandom, but for me the much harder question to ask is Moffat or RTD? It's all very well for Moffat to come swanning in for his week or two a year, but laying the building blocks of an entire season is another skill altogether. And how do you compare the task of creating main characters versus supporting ones? I mean, do Rose, Martha, and Donna — not to mention the rather enormous contribution RTD made in laying down the guidelines for the 9th and 10th Doctors' personas — really match up to Sally and Reinette and Nancy? What's cleverer: the addition of the non-linear nature of time travel to the mythos, or finding a way, through the Time War, to drop a "translucent veil" over all that past continuity and start fresh without doing a hard reboot? Cornell is an interesting, beloved writer — but he's not top tier. He's more at the Mark Gatiss/Gareth Roberts level. Still quite an exciting thing to get him on board, but he's too wedded to other forms of Doctor Who to be compared to the Grand Moff, who's a television writer first, and a Doctor Who writer second. |
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"I think of myself as ambitious in casting terms, and I know that Bonnie [Langford] has the potential to make the part totally unirritating . . ." — JNT, 1986
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Smitty
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| Monday, May 05 2008 @ 05:53 PM EDT |
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Steven Moffat to me brings to mind the late great Robert Holmes.
But dat me...
May I get the game back in gear?
Tegan Jovanka or Donna Noble?
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DarthSkeptical
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| Monday, May 05 2008 @ 05:57 PM EDT |
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| Smitty, there is an unanswered question in play already. (And Robert Holmes isn't worthy to mention the Grand Moff's name. You can't really compare Holmes to Moffat because Holmes had a characteristic formula, largely involving having a double-act of secondary characters leading the Doctor into the principal adventure. Plus, much of Holmes' work, during his most active period, had to do with pastiches of recognizable "classic"' storylines. Moffat has not yet employed either technique.) |
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That Neil Guy
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| Monday, May 05 2008 @ 05:58 PM EDT |
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Well, two for one here.
I don't have a real opinion of the two comic images of Ten. But I'll say the newer one because it's a bit more sparse and stylized to my eye.
And Donna (so far) is my choice. Well, at least she's my choice of companion to watch on TV. Now, if I were to choose, um, a, um, different, er, more personal reason for choosing one of those two, I'd pick Tegan. |
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That Neil Guy
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DarthSkeptical
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| Dalec Sec. He was the last, best hope for Daleks to do something interesting with their miserable lives. An actual character for a Dalek. Jek was just the misunderstood ugly guy hiding behind a mask. Been there, done that. |
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DarthSkeptical
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"I think of myself as ambitious in casting terms, and I know that Bonnie [Langford] has the potential to make the part totally unirritating . . ." — JNT, 1986
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Smitty
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| Monday, May 05 2008 @ 06:19 PM EDT |
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Ian, pretty tough dude for a science teacher!
Delgado or Ainley Master?
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tarashnat
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| Monday, May 05 2008 @ 06:20 PM EDT |
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| [Quote by: DarthSkeptical] Ian or Steven? |
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Steven, because he is a pilot!
Raxicoricofallapatorius or Klom? |
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Daleks don't accept apologies! YOU WILL BE EXTERMINATED!
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