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     Friday, March 31 2006 @ 11:03 AM EST
    So my girlfriend (a major sci-fi geek) had an interesting comment on the new series after watching "The Unquiet Dead".

    She really liked the story, enjoyed the humor (fan jokes, etc). But she felt that the Doctor and Rose's relationship comments were really, really cheesy.

    Her comment - "The Doctor and Rose's relationship is as cheesy in this series as the sets were shaky in the classic series".

    I believe that she actually gagged at one point.

    Anyway, I think it's a bit cheesy (as I said in my audio comment from...geez...a while back), but it's kind of growing on me.

    What do other people think?

    Tim

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     Friday, March 31 2006 @ 11:10 AM EST
    I think it may be only considered cheesy fi you will because some may see it as 2 adults acting like kids almost together and not doing "adult" things. New people to the show have to consider that the BBC is till trying to keep this a kid friendly show as possible so they have to keep Rose and the doctor platonic, kinda like it used to be with Wonder Woman and Steve Trevor from way back when.

    If they BBC were to make the Doctor and Rose more involved (like some relationships on shows like ER) they would lose the kid appeal of the show. Plus you would have purists jump on their back too. But heck that is just my opinion.

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    Russel

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     Friday, March 31 2006 @ 11:49 AM EST
    I think you hit the nail on the head. To Americans, they act like they are involved, but then things happen to make it seem more like an uncle/neice relationship.

    I think some of it might just be the general British attitude towards some things (like holding hands) that comes across differently to Americans.

    For example, I know a lot of men from Britain that basically come across as "gay", when they aren't.

    I think those mixed signals are indeed what contributes to that cheesy feeling...

    Tim

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     Friday, March 31 2006 @ 12:08 PM EST
    I almost think it has a lot to do with that episode. I've always viewed it as this: Rose & The Doctor know each other, but are still testing the limits/parameters of their relationship. They aren't best friends yet, but its coming.... By World War III I didn't find their interactions cheesy anymore. I saw them as two adults who cared deeply for each other on a completely plutonic level. But with The Unquiet Dead.... well, to me it did come across like two pre-teens playing dress-up (of course, this was the "dress up episode")

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     Friday, March 31 2006 @ 12:55 PM EST
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    Well, one person's cheese is another person's wine.

    Wait until we get to "Parting of the Ways" in the restaurant with Jackie. Rose talks about how good the Doctor is.

    If she finds that cheesy, and doesn't reach for the hankies, then I think I know a bit more about the character of the person who is complaining about cheese.

    Perhaps she hasn't really heard any real human relationship dialogue, because she's been watching nothing but American TV all her life.

    Who knows?

    Sean.

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     Saturday, April 01 2006 @ 01:44 PM EST
    [Quote  by:  seanhuxter] .
    Well, one person's cheese is another person's wine.



    Make mine a glass of the finest Gorgonzola!



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    Great sentence! The Doctor/Rose relationship is one of the many complex and interesting things in the series. Rose obviously fancies the pants off him, but she also sees him as a bit of a father figure. The Doctor's feelings are less obvious. The holding hands thing shows they are comfortable with each other - anything else is done quite tenatively. Lets see if she stil has the same feelings in series 2!

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     Sunday, April 02 2006 @ 07:14 PM EDT
    I really like the new series even the slightly "cheese" parts.
    I have watched the entire season, and there are some episodes
    that rival my all time favorites. I only have one problem with the
    new series. That is the directors two dimensional concept for the
    appearance of Chris Eccleston's Doctor. I'm not sure what he was
    thinking when he put him that outfit. It is a very poor Doctor Who look.
    No style, no flare for the dramatic, and no idiosyncrasies. I was
    very disappointed in that aspect of the new show.

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     Sunday, April 02 2006 @ 07:40 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  unfated] I only have one problem with the
    new series. That is the directors two dimensional concept for the
    appearance of Chris Eccleston's Doctor. I'm not sure what he was
    thinking when he put him that outfit. It is a very poor Doctor Who look.
    No style, no flare for the dramatic, and no idiosyncrasies. I was
    very disappointed in that aspect of the new show.
    Now, the question is, did you like the 6th Doctor's costume?

    Taras

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     Sunday, April 02 2006 @ 08:02 PM EDT
    Personally no. It was a bit too out there for me, but I did respect
    it as a very Doctor concept. Full of bizarre idiosyncrasies and he
    stood out as a/the Doctor, not some bloke off the street.

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     Monday, April 03 2006 @ 02:27 AM EDT

    I tend to agree that the 9th Doctor's wardrobe is probably a bit too conservative for the character in my opinion and was a bit disappointed when I first saw it in stills prior to launch of the 2005 series. After seeing the new series, I wrote it off as a possible effect of what the Doctor had been through from the last time we saw him in his 8th incarnation. The battered jacket symbolized his own battered spirit in a sense.

    The 10th Doctor's wardrobe I think is more inline of what might be expected from the Doctor... while still not overly notable, and still more conservative compared to pre-9th Doctor incarnations.

    Cheers,
    Louis

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     Monday, April 03 2006 @ 11:20 AM EDT
    When it comes to the 9th Doctor's costume I agree it was a little subdude(sp) compared to his looks in the past. I guess you could write it off to the time war and him being the only survivor (so far) of it. It would be interesting if they ever go back to his incarnation and maybe show him having a different look before that took place if they ever do anything about that time period.

    When it comes to the 10th Doctors's look I do like it more then the lethyer jacket look. It seems more fitting to what he has wore in the past, more worldy I guess. That and I like he has more of a head of hair on him.

    Cheers,
    Russel

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     Monday, April 03 2006 @ 12:08 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Russel] When it comes to the 9th Doctor's costume I agree it was a little subdude(sp) compared to his looks in the past. I guess you could write it off to the time war and him being the only survivor (so far) of it. It would be interesting if they ever go back to his incarnation and maybe show him having a different look before that took place if they ever do anything about that time period.

    He does have a different look in the photo in Rose when Clive mentions the Titanic... BBC | Doctor Who | DESKTOP WALLPAPER | Exciting pictures of the Ninth Doctor | Victorian Gentleman.

    Taras

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     Monday, April 03 2006 @ 02:47 PM EDT
    It just seems like he wanted to blend in more... although in Series 1 he definately didn't feel that need when he went to the past!

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     Monday, April 03 2006 @ 04:08 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  WarrenPeace] It just seems like he wanted to blend in more... although in Series 1 he definately didn't feel that need when he went to the past!

    He did change his jumper! What's wrong with that jumper?

    Taras

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     Monday, April 03 2006 @ 06:06 PM EDT
    I am thinking that the pictures that Clive was showing Rose in Rose could have been before the Time War and therefore he was still trying to blend in with his surroundings and did not have the leather jacket look.

    Cheers,
    Russel

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