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stjohnny
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Great episode, great Who once again, i especially enjoyed the first mention of Gallifrey in the new series, although i was a bit miffed by next series previews, not really anything to look forward too except the lost Dalek, wouldn't have minded a bit of Captain Jack in the previews.
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Archie
Registered: 05/11/06
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| Monday, December 25 2006 @ 03:34 PM EST |
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I'll be brief as it is Christmas Day and my wife wants to spend some time with me know the kids are in bed!
Nice episode. I preferred it to last year's Christmas special. Lots of character moments with the doctor and Donna including some nice spot lights on the Doctor's character. This is the adult side of Doctor Who that keeps us older viewers happy whilst my children seemed very taken with the action.
The flying Tardis will no doubt upset some traditional fans but it makes a world of sense that it can travel in space and the sequences were great. David Tennant has clearly warmed to the role and lots of nice touches from him.
I haven't seen Catherine Tate before but she did a fine job here and appears to be a competent actress. Also quite a figure on her!
Nice touches about Torchwood and it was interesting that the Doctor beleives they have been destroyed. I had hopes that Captain Jack might show up as the cavalry however that didn't happen.
Finaly Gallifrey gets a mention which as noted above was nice. I would have loved a direct reference to UNIT as being the army chaps with the tanks but I guess that is hoping for too much.
Right must dash - mince pies to consume!
Merry Christmas all! |
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Rob Himself
Registered: 12/01/06
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| Monday, December 25 2006 @ 04:02 PM EST |
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I really enjoyed it start till finish and i am glad it dident have the doctor sulking all the way thrue it i liked it better then last years Christmas special.
The flying tardis part looked silly at first but it soon made up for it i was really getting in to it and screeming JUMP lol.
Pitty its just a one off for Catherine Tate i think she would of made a good companion.
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tarashnat
Registered: 08/17/05
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| Tuesday, December 26 2006 @ 12:36 AM EST |
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| [Quote by: stjohnny] wouldn't have minded a bit of Captain Jack in the previews. |
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They probably don't have the episodes featuring Jack Harkness finished, yet. Last year had only stuff from episodes one thru six, if I recall correctly. They are probably recording the episodes featuring Capt. Jack about now.
A good start for the third series of Doctor Who. My appetite is alreaty whetted for the spring's crop of episodes.
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atomic99
Registered: 03/02/06
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| Tuesday, December 26 2006 @ 01:57 AM EST |
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While not great Doctor Who, this was still a lot of fun.
Random things off the top of my head....
I enjoyed the Tardis floating along the motorway. Something we haven't seen before and a fun sequence.
It's nice that they finally mentioned Gallifrey and didn't ignore the impact of Rose.
I enjoyed the baddie. Well done of a villain. |
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seanhuxter
Registered: 08/27/05
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| Tuesday, December 26 2006 @ 11:02 AM EST |
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My take: My daughter (11) and I just watched it and she loved it. I also had a great time watching it. Did I love it? I'm not sure "loved" is the right word. I'll stick with "enjoyed" for now.
Donald Tosh, the story editor for Doctor Who in 1965, wrote the following in response to some of the atrocities committed in the annuals that were so inconsistent with Who:
The Doctor himself never kills anything or anybody. His stick is never used as a sort of super ray gun. Perhaps the writer could give the stick the power of paralysis rather than death... The Tardis does not gyrate like a spinning top... No monster is strong enough to crush the Tardis, as the outer casing is made of an indestructibel materal... There is an automatic mental adjustor for Earth beings in the Tardis to enable them to understand all languages. This takes place during materialisation and dematerialisation of the Tardis... If the Doctor had an umbrella , which is possible, it would not be of the James Bond variety... The Doctor does not wear a pin-striped suit.
Uh, well, apparently the TARDIS does gyrate like a spinning top (we've seen it many times even in the old series) and the Doctor, apparently, does wear a pin-striped suit.
So the spinning of the TARDIS didn't bother me. What bothered me more was the taking-off of the TARDIS at the end. Quite inconsistent, but if you look at it as just one more trick the TARDIS can do (which makes sense for a multi-dimensional space-ship) it's fine. It's just the Doctor doing what he does best - showing off.
I liked Catherine Tate, never having seen her act before except for one small sketch I saw on YouTube in preparation.
I really disliked the Arachnoid or whatever it was. Hated it. Yet another hammy actress hissing her lines. I wish they'd come up with something -- ANYTHING -- different.
It would have been nice (but expensive) to have all the other eyes follow hers, so it didn't look like a human in a mask. Or to fully black out her eyes completely so all the eyes looked arachnid and not just two out of twelve or so.
It wouldnt' have been that hard (speaking as a professional technical 3D artist) to have the other eyes track what her real two eyes were doing, and it would have lent a much scarier look to her. They had to meld her body into a CGI spider for a lot of those scenes, they could have tossed in the extra cash for the eyes to work better. Threw me right off.
I, too, was hoping Jack would show up at the end, but he didn't.
I was very happy to see the previews for the next season and Sarah Jane Adventures. I really hope the rhinocerous guys aren't Sontarans, though their outer suits look like they are supposed to be Sontarans. It's the Sontarans I was hoping to see back again next.
There were a lot of good throw-away lines in this one. Nicely written, I thought. the Doctor referring to the 4H pencil and saying "That's you in a nutshell" or something... a lot of really good banter between the Doctor and the bride.
And she did give a very telling line near the end. "You need someone... if only to stop you." Nice.
You saw that didn't you. He would have savagely killed the Arachthing at the end if she hadn't shown compassion and told the Doctor to stop.
Good point nicely made.
Anyway, I will say that it was well worth the wait and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Did I love it? I dunno... am I bothered? Am I though?
:-)
Sean.
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merlin_mccarley
Registered: 07/30/06
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| Tuesday, December 26 2006 @ 12:59 PM EST |
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First, keep in mind that it is a Christmas "One off" and look at it in that context. But that said -
1. Why does the Doctor say "Going back further than I have ever gone"? Does he say this to all the new girls  .
2. Just how much clothing did Rose leave strewn over the TARDIS? Very untidy, that girl.
3. The bride's familys own treatment of her was rediculous. Unless she really was that sort of person.
The automatic assumption that she pulled this as a lark was just weird.
I'm sure there is more, but it's early in the thread. I actually enjoyed the look into season 3 FOB, Dalek, Sontarns
(the Time War may have changed them as well) so bring it on. The groom to be just goes to show that HR will truely
get into bed with anything  .
So I am with Sean Huxter on the love/hate/indiffrence thing, just can't quite make up my mind on this one yet.
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Abersoch
Registered: 11/27/05
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| Tuesday, December 26 2006 @ 01:23 PM EST |
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| [Quote by: seanhuxter] So the spinning of the TARDIS didn't bother me. What bothered me more was the taking-off of the TARDIS at the end. Quite inconsistent, but if you look at it as just one more trick the TARDIS can do (which makes sense for a multi-dimensional space-ship) it's fine. It's just the Doctor doing what he does best - showing off. |
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Evidently the TARDIS has a "dramatic exit" switch. You can tell this episode was written by a gay man . |
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actorguy
Registered: 01/07/06
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| Tuesday, December 26 2006 @ 02:21 PM EST |
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[Quote by: seanhuxter]
It wouldnt' have been that hard (speaking as a professional technical 3D artist) to have the other eyes track what her real two eyes were doing, and it would have lent a much scarier look to her. They had to meld her body into a CGI spider for a lot of those scenes, they could have tossed in the extra cash for the eyes to work better. Threw me right off.
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Didn't I hear/read somewhere that the only CGI involved in the Empress was the blinking of the extra eyes - the body was an actual prop/set piece she had to get into - which would explain why it didn't move very much. |
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stjohnny
Registered: 02/16/06
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| Tuesday, December 26 2006 @ 02:25 PM EST |
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[Quote by: Abersoch] | [Quote by: seanhuxter] So the spinning of the TARDIS didn't bother me. What bothered me more was the taking-off of the TARDIS at the end. Quite inconsistent, but if you look at it as just one more trick the TARDIS can do (which makes sense for a multi-dimensional space-ship) it's fine. It's just the Doctor doing what he does best - showing off. |
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Evidently the TARDIS has a "dramatic exit" switch. You can tell this episode was written by a gay man . |
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It also has a snow machine sticking out of the top, the switch is just above the door. Atmospheric displacement my eye, The Doctor can just materialise the TARDIS into the nearest BBC prop shop and install one if he wanted snow that much! |
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Mohan
Registered: 01/01/06
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| Tuesday, December 26 2006 @ 02:52 PM EST |
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I really enjoyed the Runaway Bridge. My wife and I just finished watching it and I wanted to just jump on the boards and share my enthusiasm with fellow fans. No, it's not my favorite episode, but I liked it a lot more than last year's. I enjoyed seeing the Doctor DO something in a Christmas episode and it was nice to see that Rose wasn't simply forgotten. I believe the balance between forgetting her and being too sappy was just right.
Sure, a few things were cheeky but isn't that the point of Doctor Who? It's not all serious (the Tardis is a snow maker? Sure thing, it's Christmas!)
In seeing the trailer for Season 3, I'm really excited to see what's coming next.
Great, great fun! |
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tarashnat
Registered: 08/17/05
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| Tuesday, December 26 2006 @ 03:30 PM EST |
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Those Sontaran like warriors are the Juldoon... rhino heads and all! Maybe they stole the Sontaran's helmets because nothing else in the universe will fit their heads!?!
I like the show girls in the trailer! 
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daveac
Registered: 04/12/06
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| Tuesday, December 26 2006 @ 03:39 PM EST |
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[Quote by: merlin_mccarley] Sontarns
(the Time War may have changed them as well) so bring it on.
Cheers,
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Quite enjoyed it - hope they don't do a Christmas one every year.
Do you mean those 'rino faced creatures' in sort of Sontarn suits?
I think those could be the Dalek slave race - the Orgrons.
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tarashnat
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| Tuesday, December 26 2006 @ 03:43 PM EST |
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Nope, they're Juldoon. At least according to the toys due out in the Spring... |
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daveac
Registered: 04/12/06
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| Tuesday, December 26 2006 @ 03:52 PM EST |
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[Quote by: tarashnat]
Nope, they're Juldoon. At least according to the toys due out in the Spring... |
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OK.
For others here's what we are talking about:-
spoiler pic
Cheers, daveac |
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