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timeflight
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I have just read this on OG about a Dr Who cartoon being produced. Have a look here. This in my opinion is too much. Along with Torchwood, the animated K9 adventured and Sarah Jane adventures I think people are going to get sick of it. I would rather RTD made Doctor Who perfectly rather than water it down with all this rubbish that I assume he will be writing. Bring back Barry Letts and Terrance Dicks.
Rant over sorry. What I mean is, if RTD concentrated on the main series rather than lining his pockets, we wouldn't get trash like 'Love and Monsters'. What do you think?" |
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That Neil Guy
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| Friday, January 26 2007 @ 06:55 AM EST |
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| But on the positive side...maybe this is the only way they can do stories off earth. |
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Linquel
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| Friday, January 26 2007 @ 07:40 AM EST |
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[Quote by: timeflight] I have just read this on OG about a Dr Who cartoon being produced. Have a look here. This in my opinion is too much. Along with Torchwood, the animated K9 adventured and Sarah Jane adventures I think people are going to get sick of it. I would rather RTD made Doctor Who perfectly rather than water it down with all this rubbish that I assume he will be writing. Bring back Barry Letts and Terrance Dicks.
Rant over sorry. What I mean is, if RTD concentrated on the main series rather than lining his pockets, we wouldn't get trash like 'Love and Monsters'. What do you think?" |
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After reading the article on OG, I'm not all that concerned. It's not like they're creating a whole new series. This will be one story that runs in thirteen sections on Totally Doctor Who. I'd be surprised if each segment ran more than five minutes. I'm not worried about this. Now if they are planning on using this to launch a new, ongoing, cartoon...then I'd be a little worried. |
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Abersoch
Registered: 11/27/05
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| Friday, January 26 2007 @ 12:59 PM EST |
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| Ha! I know what it is. After the Invasion DVD release, the Beeb has accidentally erased some key moments from series 3 and has had to recreate them using animation and guesswork to piece together the missing episodes. |
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Louis
Registered: 01/01/04
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| Friday, January 26 2007 @ 01:33 PM EST |
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[Quote by: Linquel]
After reading the article on OG, I'm not all that concerned. It's not like they're creating a whole new series. This will be one story that runs in thirteen sections on Totally Doctor Who. I'd be surprised if each segment ran more than five minutes. I'm not worried about this. Now if they are planning on using this to launch a new, ongoing, cartoon...then I'd be a little worried. |
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That's my feeling as well.
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Louis
Registered: 01/01/04
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| Friday, January 26 2007 @ 01:36 PM EST |
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| [Quote by: That Neil Guy] But on the positive side...maybe this is the only way they can do stories off earth. |
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That's right! No more excuses now! 
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TorchwoodPDX
Registered: 01/01/07
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| Friday, January 26 2007 @ 01:52 PM EST |
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No this is too cool!
Since it will air inside of one the 300,000 million DW spin offs it shouldn't hurt the franchise anymore then what 300,000 million DW spin offs have already.
I would love to see them do this with some of the other Doctors.
Tom back in Tardis Or Peter Or Colin.
They could do full redo's of some the lost episodes.
and bring back monsters will all love without having to "update" their look since as a cartoon the look might play better. We could have our classic monsters and villains in all their 60's-80's glory.
I know some of this is in the works, but if this proves to be popular then it could really help speed this type of stuff up. |
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MikeD
Registered: 01/19/06
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| Friday, January 26 2007 @ 02:30 PM EST |
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| [Quote by: timeflight] I have just read this on OG about a Dr Who cartoon being produced. Have a look here. This in my opinion is too much. Along with Torchwood, the animated K9 adventured and Sarah Jane adventures I think people are going to get sick of it. I would rather RTD made Doctor Who perfectly rather than water it down with all this rubbish that I assume he will be writing. |
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How about some perspective...this is being done as part of the already existing "Totally Doctor Who" and each of the 13 episodes is mere minutes long.
You automatically assume that RTD writes everything, he doesn't. Fact, outside of "Doctor Who" RTD has done very little writing for these other projects. He isn't the day-to-day producer of any of these shows; he's not even the day-to-day producer of Doctor Who.
Torchwood: Russell wrote *one* out of 13 episodes and like Julie Gardner served as executive producer. Chris Chibnall is the head writer, not Russell.
Sarah Jane: One episode co-written with Gareth Roberts and from the final product it seems obvious there's a more Gareth in there than RTD.
K9: Has *zero* to do with RTD or the BBC.
| [Quote by: timeflight]Rant over sorry. What I mean is, if RTD concentrated on the main series rather than lining his pockets, we wouldn't get trash like 'Love and Monsters'. What do you think?" |
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I think it's too bad that less than two years after the debut of the new series we've got some fans acting just as negative as back in the late 1980s. I think it's too bad that you assume that RTD's motives must be greed and nothing else even though there are no facts to support the statement.
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MikeD
Registered: 01/19/06
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| Friday, January 26 2007 @ 06:52 PM EST |
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[Quote by: timeflight]Funny that Mike because I was NEVER negative or critical in the 80s, I loved it, and JNT - the best era of the programme in my opinion (if I'm still allowed to have opinions).
I have also NEVER critisised the new series itself, or what RTD has done to bring it back - I love it and so (more importantly) do my children.
I just fear that the Doctor Who 'brand' will become too watered down and everyone will be sick of it. |
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Everyone has opinions but when you say "if RTD concentrated on the main series rather than lining his pockets" you are making an ad hominem attack on RTD, not stating an opinion.
When you say "water it down with all this rubbish that I assume he will be writing" you are making an assumption this is not correct since he in fact hasn't been the person writing all that "rubbish". In fact he's written very little of it.
In 2006 RTD had far fewer scripts (12 vs 7) in total on UK television that he did in 2005. How can the writing get watered down when he's doing so much less of it.
We all have opinions. Being a fan would be really boring if we all had the same views on everything. The idea that the brand is being over-exposed is not an opinion that I agree with but it's a fair one and I can totally see where you're coming from. What I'm reacting to is what I think is a slur against Russell on grounds that I just do not see a basis for.
The comparison with the 80s and JNT is critiquing the show or something about though personal attacks on the man behind the show. I think saying that RTD is making particular choices just to "line his own pockets" is pretty personal and not supported by any actual facts. To be fair it's not as bad as many of the unfair things said about JNT but that is what it reminds me of.
Btw, the story on OG states that Russell is not the writer of the cartoon, Alan Barnes is. |
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Will-I-Am
Registered: 06/26/06
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| Friday, January 26 2007 @ 03:50 PM EST |
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[Quote by: Louis] [Quote by: Linquel]
After reading the article on OG, I'm not all that concerned. It's not like they're creating a whole new series. This will be one story that runs in thirteen sections on Totally Doctor Who. I'd be surprised if each segment ran more than five minutes. I'm not worried about this. Now if they are planning on using this to launch a new, ongoing, cartoon...then I'd be a little worried. |
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That's my feeling as well.
Cheers,
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I also agree. Seems like it might be ok in the dosage prescribed here.
Still, am I the only one who feels I can't currently get enough? Having too many irons in the fire is certainly a danger to overall quality control from one vantage point, but having more volume of 'New Who' is far from a bad thing, either.
[Quote by: Louis] | [Quote by: That Neil Guy] But on the positive side...maybe this is the only way they can do stories off earth. |
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That's right! No more excuses now!
Cheers,
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LOL to this, guys. 
But - I must admit, you're both right. And from the sound of the initial plot outline, that will be the case precisely. Animation = complete creative freedom in this area, so I suspect it may be intentional for that very purpose. |
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timeflight
Registered: 04/13/06
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| Friday, January 26 2007 @ 05:20 PM EST |
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| [Quote by: MikeD]I think it's too bad that less than two years after the debut of the new series we've got some fans acting just as negative as back in the late 1980s. I think it's too bad that you assume that RTD's motives must be greed and nothing else even though there are no facts to support the statement. |
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Funny that Mike because I was NEVER negative or critical in the 80s, I loved it, and JNT - the best era of the programme in my opinion (if I'm still allowed to have opinions).
I have also NEVER critisised the new series itself, or what RTD has done to bring it back - I love it and so (more importantly) do my children.
I just fear that the Doctor Who 'brand' will become too watered down and everyone will be sick of it. |
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Magpie
Registered: 06/29/06
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| Friday, January 26 2007 @ 08:57 PM EST |
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Little animated episodes? Definately not too much! Too bad "Firestep" who's supposedly doing the animation can't be tracked down in google - I'd send them my resume Oh well! They've probably already hired all their animators anyhow. |
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timeflight
Registered: 04/13/06
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| Saturday, January 27 2007 @ 03:09 AM EST |
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OK, maybe I went a bit over the top in my first post. Sorry, I respect you and your opinions Mike and enjoy listening to you on the podcast so I don't want to fall out with you.
So, here is my overall point in one sentance: I'm just a little worried about the over-saturation of Doctor Who. |
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tarashnat
Registered: 08/17/05
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| Saturday, January 27 2007 @ 11:15 AM EST |
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Until they go to 26 episode series and have two of those running per year, I don't think we will have that problem.
Then again, we have 16 years of little to no output to make up for. |
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DarthSkeptical
Registered: 03/11/06
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| Sunday, January 28 2007 @ 05:46 AM EST |
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Well, as a HUGE fan of Doctor Who comics and animation, I would personally love an animated show, particularly if it were done for the same audience as the live action series.
It would finally bring up the annual episode count closer to what it traditionally was during the majority of the classic era. It's odd to me that people are suggesting oversaturation since the program made its name initially running 9 month seasons, and got its highest ratings in an era where it was on 6 months out of the year. We're on 3 months out of the year now and people are balking at the idea of having animation that could bring us up to Fourth Doctor era levels of programming? I'd much rather have a full-on animated series to run in the off months than to have a few five minute segments of Totally Doctor Who.
And it's not like it's an unprecedented notion, either. Just this year, we've seen Superman on live action TV with Smallville, in movie theatres with Superman Returns, in comics with a huge Superman-centric cross-over event called Infinite Crisis, a major push to release previous Superman televised outings on DVD, and on animated TV with the final season of Justice League Unlimited and the first season of Legion of Super-Heroes. I don't see a lot of people saying that Superman as a concept is played out. Quite the opposite: 2006 has been a year of celebration for the Man of Steel.
I personally think Doctor Who could survive with both an animated and live action version of David Tennant. |
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