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mpe
Registered: 04/10/06
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[Quote by: Daktaer] Well, you start steering down that street, and you have to wonder how power was still on for all the lights, equipment, etc. I mean, most hospitals have some sort of back up generators, but for all the lights and the XRay machines, etc? Of course, we don't know what the Gudoon did in that regard, but they sure as heck didn't explain it either.
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Lights, even the XRay machine appear quite reasonable it's not as if you want people dying in the operating theatre or falling down the stairs just because the power goes out. With a thousand plus people the exhaust from a few diesel engines might not be all that significent.
The big power problem comes when you want to turn an MRI into an improvised WMD. |
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deknaj
Registered: 04/01/07
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| Sunday, April 01 2007 @ 05:42 PM EDT |
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Well I for one was looking for the allusions to this year's overriding story-arc.
I almost thought that our space vampire was it with her 'being a survivor'....First Bad Wolf, then Torchwood and now...whats next to take us hurtling down the vortex to the return of Tremas? |
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Justice
Registered: 02/14/07
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| Sunday, April 01 2007 @ 07:47 PM EDT |
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because waaaiiiiiting is hardist part! |
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"Eliminate all other factors, and the one which remains must be the truth."
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seanhuxter
Registered: 08/27/05
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| Sunday, April 01 2007 @ 08:38 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: BadWolf]
I notice that no one is saying "another Earthbound episode."
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Because it went without saying. It would have been like saying "Oh, look, another Earthbound episode of 'Eastenders'".
Sean.
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One solid hope is worth a cartload of uncertainties.
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actorguy
Registered: 01/07/06
Posts: 207
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| Sunday, April 01 2007 @ 09:09 PM EDT |
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I loved it! I'm ashamed to say, though, that I didn't get the "Planet Zovirax" line. I just googled it and it's a treatment for Herpes. I still don't get it.
Pat
Edited: Just saw a thread on OG and it's a joke about a commercial for a cold sore cream featuring a girl wearing a biker helmet. That one won't translate on the US Scifi channel! :-) |
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"Don't play as if you've swallowed the metronome!"
-- Nadia Boulanger
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seanhuxter
Registered: 08/27/05
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| Sunday, April 01 2007 @ 09:18 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: capricorn1] [Quote by: seanhuxter]
3) "Emily Pankhurst"???? What's that all about?
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I think it was just a throw away comment added as the Doctor likes to name drop people from history. Possibily a bit to UK specific, see here |
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Ah, that explains that. It's a strange thing for me when I don't get a cultural reference, even a British one...
Thanks for clearing that up.
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One solid hope is worth a cartload of uncertainties.
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actorguy
Registered: 01/07/06
Posts: 207
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| Sunday, April 01 2007 @ 09:37 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: Louis]
I just hope episode one, next year does not take place in a hospital again. |
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Yes! I say we write a strongly worded letter to RTD about his pro-hospital/hospital shop agenda. It's taking focus away from his insidious gay agenda, which, in my book, is much more important.
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"Don't play as if you've swallowed the metronome!"
-- Nadia Boulanger
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shoggoth
Registered: 05/31/06
Posts: 115
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| Monday, April 02 2007 @ 12:39 AM EDT |
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Season Three's first episode did not disappoint me. In fact, it is probably one of the strongest companion introduction episodes that I can remember.
Vote Saxon! |
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"Elemental, my dear Benton."
The Doctor to Sgt. Benton (The Daemons)
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zaphod08
Registered: 11/14/06
Posts: 12
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| Monday, April 02 2007 @ 01:00 AM EDT |
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| I think I'm going to really like Martha. Loved the story as well. I do wonder if the rhino aliens buy their uniforms from Sontaran's extra big and tall. |
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moshdaddy
Registered: 04/16/06
Posts: 17
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| Monday, April 02 2007 @ 03:04 AM EDT |
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Been avoiding the forums as I have been busy - see the shameless plug in the sig - and wanted to see this season totally fresh. Must say that I thought this was the strongest episode to start a season so far...I loved the way it just moved. I was never bored and event though there were some logicall fallacies, they didn't trip me up because I was enjoying myself too much. Awesome. Good to be back too.
Chip Mosher
writer/creator
LEFT ON MISSION
Coming May 2007 from Boom! Studios
http://www.leftonmission.com |
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Daktaer
Registered: 02/02/07
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| Monday, April 02 2007 @ 07:00 AM EDT |
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| [Quote by: zaphod08] I think I'm going to really like Martha. Loved the story as well. I do wonder if the rhino aliens buy their uniforms from Sontaran's extra big and tall. |
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Actually, when I first saw the armored figures coming from the ships, my first impulse was they were Sontarans... but I quickly came to my senses with the arguement... "Nah." |
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"First things first? But not necessarily in that order." - The Doctor
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Linquel
Registered: 03/22/06
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| Monday, April 02 2007 @ 08:00 AM EDT |
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The wife and I caught the Red Eye last night and watched the premier. Overall, we both really enjoyed it. Here are a few of my thoughts and responses to postings...
*** Here there be spoilers ***
When the Doctor introduced himself and Martha said she would be, too, if she passes her exams, I really thought the Doctor would make some kind of "but I'm the definite article" comment similar to what the 4th Doc said to Harry Sullivan in Robot. 
[Quote by: BadWolf]
Major plot hole for me was this:
If the Doctor died then why didn't he regenerate?
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I didn't like the Doctor's "death" either. It really was a staggeringly big plothole that they could make the Doctor be dead, but conveniently not regenerate. Daktaer mentioned some ways the Doctor might have done it in the past, but I'm concerned that the newer viewers who just watched him regenerate last year will find it harder to accept.
| [Quote by: Jon Wise]The patients, who have to go down as some of the worst actors in telly history, were all facing death when the oxygen supply ran out. |
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I can't really argue with this statement from Mr. Wise's article. When the rest of the staff and patients started screaming and flipping out, my wife leaned over said "those are some really bad extras." They really were over-acting.
[Quote by: mpe]
Didn't take place on Earth. Though interesting how the Judoon kept the building in Earth gravity. Would have been kind of difficult for them to stomp around in Lunar gravity...
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I made a similar "how are they maintaining earth-normal gravity on the moon?" crack to my wife, too. I guess it's a really special force-field. 
| [Quote by: actorguy]Yes! I saw we write a strongly worded letter to RTD about his pro-hospital/hospital shop agenda. It's taking focus away from his insidious gay agenda, which, in my book, is much more important. |
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I cracked up when the Doctor made the comment about the hospital shop. I did like that bit of continuity with New Earth.
But one bit of continuity I kept waiting for was, no mention of the Thames being drained at Christmas? If I recall correctly, it looked like there was one arial shot of the the crater where the hospital used to be and it was on the river-front, which was no longer drained. I thought for sure there would have been some comment about that. Or when Martha rattled off the strange stuff happening recently she could have mentioned it.
I do like Martha so far, and she is quite the hottie. I liked the little continuity that it was her cousin working at Canary Wharf to explain her being there, too.
Yikes. I'm going to miss my morning train. Gotta run.
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I'm going "Full Circle" and putting my avatar back to what it was when I first joined. :)
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mad4plaid
Registered: 02/02/06
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| Monday, April 02 2007 @ 08:58 AM EDT |
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My red-eye was delayed quite a bit, but I've been and returned now and can only say: WHOOP!!!!
I am going to assume that if you are reading this thread, you've seen the episode or you want to see the spoilers.
Here's why I liked the episode: they were on the moon with gravity and with electricity and the improbablity of this didn't even occur to me -- even when they started talking about running out of oxygen! I was so caught up in the moment, that scientific principles didn't even occur to me. Actually, the only thing that struck me funny is that the Doctor wasn't feeling well so they kept him overnight in hospital. Perhaps this isn't unusual in the UK, but in the US, if you aren't dying or bleeding uncontrollable, they pretty much are going to send you home from the ER/urgent care with just an aspirin. After that, no concerns whatsoever.
Loved Martha finding the two hearts and the Doctors little wink at her re: the "abnormality."
I liked the fact that the Judoon used a device to detect the species of the individuals, but simply cataloged them with a marker. To me that fit right in with the Doctor's concerns about them: being thick, and all. Just seemed to work for me. Then again, I also assumed that the marker must have some sort of barcoding thing that we couldn't see in it... perhaps giving the Judoon too much credit.
Now, my only concern came from the Confidential (hope everyone had a chance to see it). RTD keeps talking about Rose being the love of the Doctors life (which I've never really bought in to), and that Martha will be taking the position of "unrequited love" with the Doctor. Why can't we just be friends? Why does it have to involve romantic love? Can't anyone write a believeable plutonic relationship and not try throw romance into the mix? It seems to me that the Doctor and Martha will be on the same intellectual plane (or closer than most people are with the doctor), why can't that be enough? A friendship? Sorry, I'll try not to harp on this throughout the season.
I agree with the others that I hope that series 4 doesn't open in a hospital, just as I hope the second show next series isn't the time-traveling show! too formulaic. That being said, love Shakespeare! Can't wait for the next episode! |
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Doctor Whoovie
Registered: 04/26/06
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| Monday, April 02 2007 @ 10:45 AM EDT |
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Well, I'm happy Doctor Who is back, however I think I appear to be part of a silent minority (perhaps a minority of one) who thought this was a pretty poor episode.
Before going on let me say a) I like Martha, no problems there - appears that Jon Pertwee's Doctor is not the only TARDIS crew member with a tattoo on their arm. b) I'm not upset that it was an earthbound (or earth-orbit bound story).
I just felt that the whole story was rushed, disjointed and tried to cram too much into a short time.
Let see. A new assistant! A new assistant's disfunctional extended family (surely they could have beeen introduced in a later episode - though they do explain why Martha is happy to leave). A new alien race of galactic peace keepers. Another new alien on the run from the first. More father Xmas pilot fish type drone robots diguised as motorcycle couriers. Gratuitous snogging before the watershed without the presence of a crack Torchwood SSST (Special Snogging and Shagging Team).
I'll watch it again to give it a second chance but my initial impression was that I was not too impressed, lets hope as with the last two series, things pick up a bit at episode 2/3.
I did like the touch of mentioning that Adeola was Martha's cousin. (more extended family)
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In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed are Kings
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Satai Styx
Registered: 09/12/05
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| Monday, April 02 2007 @ 01:26 PM EDT |
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| I sent an audio review on Ep 1. The one thing I forgot to comment on was that I thought the Judoon were VERY similar to Vogons in mannerisms. I can see them chasing a crab across the deck just for the pleasure of smashing it with a block.... |
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Ciotka Judi,
The Polish Blonde
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