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     Wednesday, April 11 2007 @ 05:23 AM EDT
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    I've never seen Battlefield, is this the source of the TARDIS is grown theory?
    As it's not the first reference to the TARDIS being alive, no. It may be the first time the word "grow" was used in reference to where TARDISes come from, but the natural implication of a ship that's "alive" is that it's more grown than built. Series 1's "The Edge of Destruction" is really the first time the TARDIS is described as being alive, so that's really the origin point of what has now been greatly emphasized in the RTD era.


    On another point, what's with the TARDIS's turbulant flying this season? It was fine at up until the Doctor made it snow. Is he trying to impress Martha with this? I remember from 'The Impossible Planet' he said it was sick, but that was never really followed up.
    Any ideas?

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     Wednesday, April 11 2007 @ 05:36 AM EDT

    It is very disappointing that we as viewers have become so lazy, that everything has to be shown and explained onscreen, or we are up in arms. What ever happened to a little mystery? The more detail writers go into some psuedo-science, the more likely they will get something blatantly wrong. I like that they never explain in detail how the Carrionite technology actually works. Firstly, it would bore the majority of viewers to tears, and secondly, it would slow the pace of the story. I think it is more fun for me to speculate on how this could work, than poking holes in an explanation that obviously can't work..

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     Wednesday, April 11 2007 @ 07:07 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  stjohnny]On another point, what's with the TARDIS's turbulant flying this season? It was fine at up until the Doctor made it snow. Is he trying to impress Martha with this? I remember from 'The Impossible Planet' he said it was sick, but that was never really followed up.
    Any ideas?


    It definitely seems like they're doing it a lot more this season. But there was a little of this in Chris Eccle's season, too, the whole rough landing resulting in the Doctor and Rose flat on their backs laughing.

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     Wednesday, April 11 2007 @ 08:29 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  tarashnat]
    It is very disappointing that we as viewers have become so lazy, that everything has to be shown and explained onscreen, or we are up in arms. What ever happened to a little mystery? The more detail writers go into some psuedo-science, the more likely they will get something blatantly wrong. I like that they never explain in detail how the Carrionite technology actually works. Firstly, it would bore the majority of viewers to tears, and secondly, it would slow the pace of the story. I think it is more fun for me to speculate on how this could work, than poking holes in an explanation that obviously can't work..

    Taras


    In the words of the Doctor from.... Oh so many times.

    "I will explain later."

    Nuff said?

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     Wednesday, April 11 2007 @ 01:19 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Linquel]
    [Quote  by:  stjohnny]On another point, what's with the TARDIS's turbulant flying this season? It was fine at up until the Doctor made it snow. Is he trying to impress Martha with this? I remember from 'The Impossible Planet' he said it was sick, but that was never really followed up.
    Any ideas?


    It definitely seems like they're doing it a lot more this season. But there was a little of this in Chris Eccle's season, too, the whole rough landing resulting in the Doctor and Rose flat on their backs laughing.
    Guys, we're at episode 2. We've had exactly one onscreen trip viewed from the "INT. TARDIS" (although we saw that one trip twice since it was the cliffhanger to "Smith and Jones").

    This would appear to be some kind of repeated theme with respect to traveling backwards from the companion's time. It has consistently been demonstrated in TUD, T&C, and now TSC that going backwards means an extra bumpy ride.

    Though "turbulence", for lack of a better word, seems most profound in these Earth historicals, the suggestion that the Doctor isn't in full command of his TARDIS is bourne out by episodes like "The Rise of the Cybermen", "The Runaway Bride", "The Empty Child" (an historical which begins with them already in orbit of 1944 Earth), and various others.

    It'll be interesting to see whether this apparent trend continues at the start of "Daleks in Manhattan".

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     Wednesday, April 11 2007 @ 04:49 PM EDT


    Well, the reason why the TARDIS ride is a bit more bumpy than years past is because that is a change that RTD wanted... He wanted to make traveling in the TARDIS a bit more 'dangerous' -- hence the reason why it is often a rough ride.

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     Thursday, April 12 2007 @ 09:05 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  lucas] Sure, the general set-up was similar to Unquiet Dead. For that matter, the constant dropping of Shakespeare quotes was reminiscent of Rose trying to get Queen Victoria to say "We are not amused" in Tooth & Claw.


    I was really fine with the similarities for the first, oh, say five minutes. Then Martha started her "Egads, What ho? Forsooth," (yes, not actually what she said, but you know what I mean), and the Doctor replied, "No, don't do that. Really, don't do that." All I could think was -- crap, are they going to lift all the dialogue from last series? Perhaps some people enjoyed the continuity (including having the back in time episode being episode two, again), but I find that formulaic and quite annoying, and really, not up to the standards of these writers - whether a kids show or not.

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     Thursday, April 12 2007 @ 01:52 PM EDT

    Hmmmm, some people don't like running gags... others do... what is a writer to do?

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     Thursday, April 12 2007 @ 03:53 PM EDT
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    Hmmmm, some people don't like running gags... others do... what is a writer to do?


    Cant please em all!

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     Friday, April 13 2007 @ 08:52 AM EDT
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    Hmmmm, some people don't like running gags... others do... what is a writer to do?


    Cant please em all!


    Big Grin Nope. You can never please them all...

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     Monday, April 23 2007 @ 09:08 AM EDT
    The story was OK. The baddies were pretty good. The effects were good. The main thing that irritated me about this story was that Shakespeare spoke too modern, too slang and that brought my impressions of the entire story down.

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     Wednesday, June 04 2008 @ 01:12 PM EDT
    In the middle of reading Bill Bryson's biography of Shakespeare. It would appear that the last 27 or so of Shakespeare's 154 sonnets were dedicated to a "dark lady": "her breasts are dun.../black wires grow on her head". Not just dark but dark skinned it would seem. Maybe a one time medical students turned UNIT member by the name of Jones?

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     Wednesday, June 04 2008 @ 03:24 PM EDT
    SONNET 29
    When, in disgrace with fortune and men's eyes,
    I all alone beweep my outcast state
    And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries
    And look upon myself and curse my fate,
    Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
    Featured like him, like him with friends possess'd,
    Desiring this man's art and that man's scope,
    With what I most enjoy contented least;
    Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising,
    Haply I think on thee, and then my state,
    Like to the lark at break of day arising
    From sullen earth, sings hymns at heaven's gate;
    For thy sweet love remember'd such wealth brings
    That then I scorn to change my state with kings.


    To bring some beauty into our lives! Just because...

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