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tarashnat
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Russell T Davies (x4)
Steven Moffat (x2)
Stephen Greenhorn
Gareth Roberts
Helen Raynor (x2)
Tom MacRae
Keith Temple
James Moran |
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Daleks don't accept apologies! YOU WILL BE EXTERMINATED!
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daveac
Registered: 04/12/06
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| Wednesday, May 30 2007 @ 05:42 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: tarashnat]
Russell T Davies (x4)
Steven Moffat (x2)
Stephen Greenhorn
Gareth Roberts
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Keith Temple
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Russell T Davies (x4) - not sure about that
Steven Moffat (x2) - great!
Perhaps these should be the other way round?
Cheers, daveac
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Louis
Registered: 01/01/04
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| Tuesday, June 05 2007 @ 10:40 AM EDT |
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[Quote by: Lucas] 2 comments:
1) I know some people liked "Daleks In Manhattan", but it had enough negative reaction that I'm surprised Helen Raynor is being entrusted with another preciously rare two-parter so soon.
2) Does anyone know why Robert Shearman hasn't returned since Series 1? "Dalek" wasn't perfect but it was certainly a very creditable script, and Shearman wrote a great short story for the 2006 Annual (I just realised I never finished reading the 2007 Storybook so I'm not sure of the quality of his story in that one). I keep expecting to see his name pop up again in the series but it never does. |
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1 - Perhaps it wasn't a home-run out of the gate, but I think it is fair enough to see what other stories she may have for us. Besides, the next series writers are determined in advance of knowing how the current series is being received. I don't follow the ratings, but I suspect the ratings have been fairly consistent this year so far (again, I don't follow them myself, so I could be wrong).
2 - I seem to remember he had to bow out of writing for the series due to schedule conflicts or something of that nature.. I am not sure. It may have to do with other projects he is involved in or was involved with... I am not sure.
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President Nice
Registered: 11/18/06
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| Tuesday, June 05 2007 @ 03:03 PM EDT |
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Russell T Davies (x4) - not sure about that
Steven Moffat (x2) - great!
Perhaps these should be the other way round?
Cheers, daveac
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On a related note, I was thinking about when RTD finally gives up the reins and who would be a suitable replacement. The only name I could come up with was Steven Moffat. Think about it - he has the experience of creating a running his own shows, he's a fan like RTD and (so far) every one of his episodes has been sublime.
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Bollocks...sir.
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DarthSkeptical
Registered: 03/11/06
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| Tuesday, June 05 2007 @ 03:29 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: Lucas] 2 comments:
1) I know some people liked "Daleks In Manhattan", but it had enough negative reaction that I'm surprised Helen Raynor is being entrusted with another preciously rare two-parter so soon.
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| Helen Raynor's contributions to the shaping of modern Doctor Who are legion, although we may not ever know precisely what they were. She was the script editor on virtually all the episodes that are routinely cited at the top of many fans' lists as the exemplars of new Who: "The Unquiet Dead", "Dalek", "The Doctor Dances/The Empty Child", "Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways", "The Christmas Invasion", "School Reunion", "Girl in the Fireplace", and all four parts of the Cyberman arc in Series 2. While one or two of my favorite episodes aren't represented in that list, if that was all you had of modern Doctor Who, you'd probably be very happy.
It must be pointed out as well that AA figures on the Dalek two-parter are on par with "Human Nature". Both "Manhattan" and "Nature" sit at 86%. Figures for "Family" haven't yet been released, so maybe Cornell's two parter will have a slightly better average than Raynor's, but there's no significant evidence yet that the general viewing public particularly liked one over the other. (I would personally argue that both two parters have similar structural problems, as well as similar dialogue and emotional triumphs.) So far, the AA champions of the season, though, remain episodes 1 and 2.
Finally, "Ghost Machine", her Torchwood entry probably did something to help her reputation at the Cardiff studios, as it was not intended as a genuine production script. It was commissioned as a backup script originally, something that would have been around in case later episodes fell through or in case the programme got picked up for a second series. When she delivered it (and quite ahead of schedule, too) the production staff was impressed and bumped it into production.
Torchwood series 1 spoilersThough I personally felt at the time, and still do, that the characterization of Owen was an abrupt sea change based on episodes 1 and 2, it was the show's first genuine attempt at really getting underneath the skins of its regulars, and for that deserves praise. Indeed, when viewed against the backdrop of the whole season, Owen's characterization works massively better. And Gwen's tacit acceptance of Jack's advances, though somewhat out of left field if viewing the series for the first time, do help to establish Gwen's later indiscretions and to remind us of Jack's bi-sexuality. The latter is particularly important for people who came to Torchwood without viewing Doctor Who, because you really can't make any sense of the emotional context of "Small Worlds". Viewed against the backdrop of the rest of the season, it's, to my eye, a kind of "second pilot"—the first episode where we start to see some of the key dynamics of the show take root. For what it's worth, TV.com mark it as the fifth-most popular episode of the series. And its AA figure was 84%, only two points off the highwater mark of 86%. It's also notably the best-appreciated episode of the first production block.
So do I think she deserves a second go? Absolutely. Do I think she "deserves" a second two-parter? Again, yes. She's one of the senior architects of the overall "feel" of modern Doctor Who. I just hope this time around they let her more or less choose her subject matter. I hope this time Gardner + Davies don't turn to her and force a situation and enemy on her, as they did with "Daleks". She's a member of the "four series" club as much as RTD and Moffatt, in my mind. She should just be trusted to come up with something brilliant. I'd love to see Raynor's original take on the universe. I'd be willing to bet that if she's got a more or less free hand that she'll deliver something that will rival the best two parters we've seen. |
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"I think of myself as ambitious in casting terms, and I know that Bonnie [Langford] has the potential to make the part totally unirritating . . ." — JNT, 1986
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lucas
Registered: 07/16/06
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| Tuesday, June 12 2007 @ 10:10 AM EDT |
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| [Quote by: President Nice] On a related note, I was thinking about when RTD finally gives up the reins and who would be a suitable replacement. The only name I could come up with was Steven Moffat. Think about it - he has the experience of creating a running his own shows, he's a fan like RTD and (so far) every one of his episodes has been sublime. Honestly there isn't another candidate in my opinion. |
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Oh god, don't tease, I'm getting giddy just at the thought of that.
But, hey, let's not start writing RTD's obituary yet. He's the man we owe for all of this buzz of having Who not only back in our lives but also once again relevant to and valued by the "general" audience, and if he ended up deciding to stay on with the show till he was a senile old man (a la his introduction to the 2005 shooting scripts), well, that would be absolutely fine by me. |
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lucas
Registered: 07/16/06
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| Tuesday, June 12 2007 @ 10:19 AM EDT |
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| [Quote by: Louis] 1 - Perhaps it wasn't a home-run out of the gate, but I think it is fair enough to see what other stories she may have for us. |
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By all means give Helen Raynor a chance with another script, I have no problem there. I just question giving her another 2 parter straight away. |
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