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     Tuesday, June 26 2007 @ 11:00 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  DarthSkeptical] Returning to Lucy Saxon for a minute, why does she cross her fingers when the Master says that time and time again aliens came, "and the government told you nothing." Is there a lie there I'm missing, or is that a mystery for episode 13?


    Good question, I guess we'll find out soon enough.

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     Tuesday, June 26 2007 @ 11:57 PM EDT
    I'm curious about Mrs. Saxon as well. Is she human? Is she one of these Toclafane in human form? Is she a Eva Braun type character? She seems remorseful about the reporter being killed, but takes joy in the Master "killing" Jack ala Spike and Drusilla from Buffy. I think there is more to her than her bad dancing at the end and pearls.

    I dont know if any of you saw the Confidential but they didn't mention her at all and that makes me believe she has some vital role in the next episode.

    I also wonder if the Master really cares about her as a companion/wife. If she were to die would he be upset, or would be he be like eh, she served a purpose. Would be interesting if she dies and the Master is as torn up about her as the Doctor was about Rose. It would kind of be another parallel for them.

    Edited to add... I wonder if there is something to learn off the "official" Harold Saxon website since they talk about her there and her background. On another note, I love the title of Mr. Saxon's bestselling novel on the site as well, "Kiss Me, Kill Me." LOL Laughing Out Loud The accompanying press photo is a hoot.

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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 12:24 AM EDT
    Well here something for thought that no one seems to have seen in the word Toclafane

    to clone a ta = to clone a tardis???

    to clone a friend?

    ONCE A TL FRIEND

    TL = TimeLord

    once a family of TL

    heres something else you can make of the word too

    A FAT CLONE

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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 01:18 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Tawm]

    Toclafane = Lo! A Fan, etc.
    Toclafane = Eat falcon!
    Toclafane = Fatal cone
    Toclafane = Fact: no ale
    Toclafane = Oat-Can Elf
    Toclafane = Face Talon

    That's all I can think of.


    Don't forget:

    Taco an elf

    Glenn a.k.a. "The 11th Doctor"
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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 10:42 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  DarthSkeptical]Until I see otherwise on Saturday, she's Romana. Or possibly Chantho.


    Rumors of Simm's casting as the Master first materialized months ago. If Romana had been cast, you'd think we'd have heard something.

    tawm.net: read it. (please?)
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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 10:57 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  The 11th Doctor]
    [Quote  by:  Tawm]

    Toclafane = Lo! A Fan, etc.
    Toclafane = Eat falcon!
    Toclafane = Fatal cone
    Toclafane = Fact: no ale
    Toclafane = Oat-Can Elf
    Toclafane = Face Talon

    That's all I can think of.


    Don't forget:

    Taco an elf


    From Digital Spy Forums bits from 'dev101' and 'Tremas'

    'fane in French is wither not lord, it can work in French

    toc = fake
    la = the
    fane = wither'

    AND

    'Fane in french is Fan (as in a folded cooling device)

    so toclafane is fake the fan'

    So 'fake the fan' ie. fool us fans?

    Cheers, daveac



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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 01:26 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  The Bachelor] Disclaimer: I'm so sorry for my apparent gushing, I couldn't get this off my mind since I'm from here, San Antoino, TX and our SPURS just happened to win our 4th NBA Championship in 9 years a couple of weeks ago. Again, I am so, so, sorry to all of you who fans who just tuned out to my post. It's just that I'm so passionate about sports just as I am so passionate about Doctor Who and they both give me a certain type of emotional high.

    GO SPURS GO!


    Hey Esco,

    Loved San Antonio when I visited there in January of '05 for another one of your professional sports - hockey! Especially since I'm from MA, and January in MA is usually around 20 degrees F, and we were walking around the Alamo and the Riverwalk in t-shirt and shorts.

    I liked your "professional sports" analogy. I would rate the "mid-season" part as the All-Star Influence (pre and post, which seem to affect the performance of teams in any given sport.)

    Funny that, I enjoyed this episode, but recognized it for what it was - Act II in playwriting. This is where the action lags but the audience gets most of the information it needs to appreciate Act III. Act II is usually the parts that the audience hates to sit through, but usually you can't understand/appreciate what goes on in Act III without Act II.

    Well, there's my twopence. Back to the regularly scheduled debates.

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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 01:41 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  DarthSkeptical] Returning to Lucy Saxon for a minute, why does she cross her fingers when the Master says that time and time again aliens came, "and the government told you nothing." Is there a lie there I'm missing, or is that a mystery for episode 13?


    Yeah, that puzzled me as well.


    Cheers,
    Louis

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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 02:12 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Louis]
    [Quote  by:  DarthSkeptical] Returning to Lucy Saxon for a minute, why does she cross her fingers when the Master says that time and time again aliens came, "and the government told you nothing." Is there a lie there I'm missing, or is that a mystery for episode 13?


    Yeah, that puzzled me as well.

    Cheers,
    Louis


    Perhaps she's crossing her fingers that nobody will spot shes an alien.

    She's too slim and too well mannered to be a Slitheen Smile

    Cheers, daveac

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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 02:18 PM EDT
    Another similarity of the Schizm... and connection to HHGTTG:

    Ciotka Judi, The Polish Blonde
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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 05:17 PM EDT
    I'll let someone else start a thread for episode 13 - but looking at the BBC 'What's On' webpage next Saturday's episode starts at 7.05 'til 7.55pm

    ie. it's a 50 minute episode!!!!

    Cheers, daveac

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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 06:11 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  daveac] ... next Saturday's episode starts at 7.05 'til 7.55pm ie. it's a 50 minute episode!!!!


    Sweet, an extra eight minutes of Tennant / Agyeman / Barrowman and most importantly Doctor Who!

    -Liyster

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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 06:57 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  rocko] I know these don't usually pan out, but has anyone tried an anagram search for "Toclafane" yet??? (Not sure of the actual spelling of the word.)


    There's also a whole thread of Toclafane speculation available here

    I'm going "Full Circle" and putting my avatar back to what it was when I first joined. :)
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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 11:00 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Tawm]
    Rumors of Simm's casting as the Master first materialized months ago. If Romana had been cast, you'd think we'd have heard something.


    I've gotta say, it would have been brilliant if the BBC had purposely let slip that the Master would be appearing in this years series so that we only focused on that and then BAM oh here's Romana! Actually I too and holding out for The Rani.

    Of course, since when has the Beeb been brilliant lately?

    Glenn a.k.a. "The 11th Doctor"
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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 11:39 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Tawm]
    [Quote  by:  DarthSkeptical]Until I see otherwise on Saturday, she's Romana. Or possibly Chantho.


    Rumors of Simm's casting as the Master first materialized months ago. If Romana had been cast, you'd think we'd have heard something.


    Well there were those rumors about the return of The Rani.

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