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Doctor Whoovie
Registered: 04/26/06
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[Quote by: Will-I-Am]
Still, I'm not particularly thrilled about Rose coming back now. It's just a bit forced. Now, the grand finale of Series 2 will mean far less, in retrospect. When watching that stuff in the future, I won't be swept up in the genuine perfection of the way they chose to end that arc - instead, I'll just think "ah, well - they'll see each other again soon enough."
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I'm not to thrilled either about Rose's return. However, If the Companion Fest had her return in the role of companion to Ninth Doctor through the use of time travel, I would be more than willing to accept it.
Just a pipe dream, but it would be good none-the-less.
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In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed are Kings
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Tardis-Knight
Registered: 02/11/07
Posts: 618
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| Thursday, January 03 2008 @ 09:48 AM EST |
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| I'd like to have seen the Doctor agree to take Mr Copper on board when he (Copper) asked him at end of VotD. I thought he was great. |
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Nothing dies of old age on Skaro!
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Doctor Whoovie
Registered: 04/26/06
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| Monday, February 11 2008 @ 08:48 AM EST |
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Don't know if anyone else has picked this up already, but I turned the TV to comedy central two night ago and saw something suspisiously like the Titanic Space liner from "Voyage of the Damned".
It was the Titanic Space Liner from "flight to remember" a Futurama episode from 1999.
Much about the Dr Who episode seemed a little borrowed (No robotic angels though).
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In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed are Kings
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Louis
Registered: 01/01/04
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| Monday, February 11 2008 @ 10:40 AM EST |
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And before that, there was Douglas Adams' Starship Titanic...
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DarthSkeptical
Registered: 03/11/06
Posts: 1129
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| Thursday, February 14 2008 @ 10:30 AM EST |
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| For some, who shall remain nameless, "Love & Monsters" is the nadir of the RTD era. For me, it's this overblown adventure. This is the only episode of modern Doctor Who I've absolutely no desire to re-watch. For a writer who is generally deft at bringing emotional weight to his scripts, RTD surprised me with his inability to make me care about anything going on. Given the unusual amount of death among those on the side of "right" in this episode, my lack of empathy is particularly surprising. "Voyage of the Damned" turns out to be an unfortunately ironic title for this piece of 100% pure, unrefined crap. |
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"I think of myself as ambitious in casting terms, and I know that Bonnie [Langford] has the potential to make the part totally unirritating . . ." — JNT, 1986
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silvanthalas
Registered: 07/23/07
Posts: 118
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| Thursday, February 28 2008 @ 11:22 AM EST |
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So, I'm listening to the Podshock where you guys are reviewing VotD. I haven't rewatched the episode, and I'm not going to, but I'm listening to Dave's review at the moment and he brings up something that I really think should be focused upon.
Well, maybe it was already discussed at Gallifrey One, when there was a panel about Davies contribution to Who, but I missed that one.
So, I'll just bring it up here, using Dave's quote from a few days after the episode aired:
[Quote by: daveac]last third ...... RTD is taking the pi**!...thinking he can get the fans to swallow anything.
(snip)
He must have sat at his computer and thought - what's the silliest idea I can get them to sit through? |
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Yeah, listening to this podcast makes me angry - not at you guys, for you all do a marvelous job, but at Davies for the things he's subjecting us to with some of his scripts.
In a nutshell, this is why I want Davies to cut back or stop writing scripts altogether. And, of course, he's writing 4 more episodes for this coming season including, I would imagine, the season finale with however many parts that will be.
And considering what we know about this upcoming season under Davies' watch already, I'm gonna need to find some medicine for the ol' gag reflex.  |
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DarthSkeptical
Registered: 03/11/06
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| Thursday, February 28 2008 @ 12:32 PM EST |
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| Oh, I'm not at that point yet. To be honest, this is the only thing of Davies that I've really actively disliked. To my view, he got one thing wrong. Even genius occasionally takes a holiday. And it's not like there weren't occasional flashes of brilliance in VOTD. I don't think he was trying to shove shit down our throats. I think he just misjudged the plot. If anything, I think the main fault may lie with script editor, Brian Minchin. If this is what his "editing" accomplished, I despair of future scripts he may have worked on. |
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"I think of myself as ambitious in casting terms, and I know that Bonnie [Langford] has the potential to make the part totally unirritating . . ." — JNT, 1986
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daveac
Registered: 04/12/06
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| Thursday, February 28 2008 @ 12:46 PM EST |
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[Quote by: silvanthalas]
So, I'll just bring it up here, using Dave's quote from a few days after the episode aired:
[Quote by: daveac]last third ...... RTD is taking the pi**!...thinking he can get the fans to swallow anything.
(snip)
He must have sat at his computer and thought - what's the silliest idea I can get them to sit through? |
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Yeah, listening to this podcast makes me angry - not at you guys, for you all do a marvelous job, but at Davies for the things he's subjecting us to with some of his scripts.
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I hope I didn't upset too many people 
Cheers, daveac
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silvanthalas
Registered: 07/23/07
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| Thursday, February 28 2008 @ 10:09 PM EST |
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| [Quote by: daveac]I hope I didn't upset too many people |
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Well, it's RTD's writing, not yours.
Besides, if I'm sure I'll be miffed by at least one of RTD's stories by the end of this upcoming season anyways.  |
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Louis
Registered: 01/01/04
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| Thursday, February 28 2008 @ 10:52 PM EST |
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[Quote by: daveac]
I hope I didn't upset too many people
Cheers, daveac
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Yeah, Dave is always stirring up trouble. 
Cheers,
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President Nice
Registered: 11/18/06
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| Friday, February 29 2008 @ 03:26 AM EST |
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Personally I quite enjoyed the episode. Apart from the villain who was totally unnecessary. It would have worked so much better as a straight disaster movie without the crowbarred in villainous plotting. I mean seriously? Why was he doing it again?
This, to me, is RTDs major failing. He comes up with big, epic storylines and sticks in a villain with a really pointless motivation. Example: Exactly why was John Lumic converting people into Cybermen? Because he was in a wheelchair? Because he wanted to? "Because he's EVIL!" doesn't cut it as an answer in this age of rounded characters.
So why was Max Headroom...sorry...Davros...sorry...Max Capricorn launching a bloody great space-boat at the Earth? To claim on the insurance? Could he not have just done what everyone else does and knocked the boat over and said the dog did it? |
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Bollocks...sir.
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