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     Sunday, May 11 2008 @ 03:55 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  rocko] The "regeneration" of Jenny looked more like what happened to Capt. Jack when Rose brought him back to life... Maybe the TARDIS saved her?? I mean, she didn't exactly look any different afterwards.


    Or maybe she was indirectly saved by the Doctor himself, remember those little bursts of energy he was giving off just after he had regenerated in The Christmas Invasion, it did look a bit like that so either she regenerated ( perhaps she can regenerate but not change form after all she was really an extrapolation of the Doctor's DNA, not a true Gallifreyan ) or maybe some of the Doctor's excess energy was attracted to her through time and space because of their similar DNA and revived her ( although re-reading that it does seem a bit silly ).

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     Sunday, May 11 2008 @ 04:49 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Shayne_A]

    Or maybe she was indirectly saved by the Doctor himself, remember those little bursts of energy he was giving off just after he had regenerated in The Christmas Invasion, it did look a bit like that so either she regenerated ( perhaps she can regenerate but not change form after all she was really an extrapolation of the Doctor's DNA, not a true Gallifreyan ) or maybe some of the Doctor's excess energy was attracted to her through time and space because of their similar DNA and revived her ( although re-reading that it does seem a bit silly ).



    Not any more silly than some other official explanations offered up before :-p

    Overall, I enjoyed this episode, although I think it needed another 20 mins or so to fully flesh out some of the character work they were trying to do. For instance, I understood what they were doing with Martha and the Hath, but I don't think we as an audience had enough time to really connect with the one who died in the quicksandy stuff like she did.

    I was glad Jenny wasn't a result of some villain cloning the Doctor, which is one reason I think I ended up liking the episode more than I expected to. The trailer made me feel like she was going to be more of an adversary that he would have to go up against.

    Donna continues to push all the right buttons on the Doctor, and I think exposing the fact that there really is a warrior/soldier was one of the big strengths of this episode. I just wish it didn't feel as rushed.

    Is this another example of a planet disappearing? Were they fleeing a world that no longer exists?

    Oh, and if someone could explain how these generations of people occurring within 7 days actually worked, that would be great. It sounded cool but I couldn't really wrap my head around what happened to the earlier generations


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     Sunday, May 11 2008 @ 05:16 AM EDT
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    [Quote  by:  cybercolin] I liked it, but my televison screen is sticky for some reason, can't think why? Wink I'm not sure about the 'regenration', I thought a Gallifreyan had to learn how to do it. Hmmmmmmmm

    Will post a proper review later!


    Thats news to me, why did you think that ?


    Isn't that the point of the Academy? Normal Gallifreyan's couldn't regenrate (as in 'The Invasion of Time) and they had to attend the academy to learn how to do it, among other things.

    Also I thought you had to start the regenative process before you die, that's if you knew how to do it of course. That's why we didn't see the Master regenrate when he 'died'.

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     Sunday, May 11 2008 @ 05:39 AM EDT
    question.. so whats in the ball?

    oh its the genesis device from Star Trek 2.

    Ahh right...

    and what did they say about susan?

    Nothing.... shhhh... we dont talk about that....

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     Sunday, May 11 2008 @ 06:22 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  cybercolin]
    [Quote  by:  Shayne_A]
    [Quote  by:  cybercolin] I liked it, but my televison screen is sticky for some reason, can't think why? Wink I'm not sure about the 'regenration', I thought a Gallifreyan had to learn how to do it. Hmmmmmmmm

    Will post a proper review later!


    Thats news to me, why did you think that ?


    Isn't that the point of the Academy? Normal Gallifreyan's couldn't regenrate (as in 'The Invasion of Time) and they had to attend the academy to learn how to do it, among other things.

    Also I thought you had to start the regenative process before you die, that's if you knew how to do it of course. That's why we didn't see the Master regenrate when he 'died'.


    Well I feel a re-watch of Invasion of Time coming on as I don't remember that at all, I was always under the impression it was a natural process if you were a Gallifreyan and I was also under the impression the Master didn't regenerate at the end of season three because of sheer willpower as a final act of revenge against the Doctor because that would finally leave him alone in the universe - I certainly don't remember the Doctor conciously starting the regeneration process and if they learnt it at the academy then how does the 12 regeneration limit work ?

    Finally if you have to be dying to start the regeneration process then what's up with Romana in Destiny of the Daleks ?

    I guess this will never be properly explained.

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     Sunday, May 11 2008 @ 06:26 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Tin Dog Podcast] question.. so whats in the ball?

    oh its the genesis device from Star Trek 2.


    I had that thought as well, lets face it the end of Last of the Time Lords borrows from Flash Gordon and Return of the Jedi as well, perhaps the Doctor Who production team just really likes 80's sci-fi.

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     Sunday, May 11 2008 @ 06:45 AM EDT
    mistake spoted!



    UNIT box in bottom right...

    or was it a unit mission?

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     Sunday, May 11 2008 @ 06:56 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Gabriel Chase] mistake spoted!



    UNIT box in bottom right...

    or was it a unit mission?



    Well spotted sir, did you go through the episode frame by frame ? Laughing Out Loud

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     Sunday, May 11 2008 @ 07:32 AM EDT

    This story continues the themes of cloning and terraforming and the Doctor as a myth.

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     Sunday, May 11 2008 @ 08:34 AM EDT
    Some of the direction in this ep (particularly the first half) was quite rough, but I suspect the jump in the last scene between Martha and Donna was a red-eye issue rather than in the original broadcast. Maybe someone who watched it go to air in the UK can confirm - ...Dave? Tin Dog? Was it in the broadcast version?

    As for Jenny's "regeneration", my reading of it was that since (a) her appearance didn't change and (b) the "energy" she breathes out isn't pure orangey gold like that from the Eccleston-Tennant regeneration but instead is GREEN & orange like the gas/energy inside the terraforming sphere, that in fact she didn't regenerate per se but was instead somehow resuscitated by the terraforming gas that was being released as she "died".

    I was a bit disappointed by the episode for the first half (not totally the fault of the story itself, but after all the mystery and anticipation created by last week's teaser it was a bit anticlimactic for the whole daughter thing to be explained so cleanly in the opening two minutes), but it won me over as it went on with some lovely moments, and a cool, very 60s Trek concept of their history being mythologised over just 7 days.

    I suspect I'll like this one much more on a next viewing...

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     Sunday, May 11 2008 @ 09:00 AM EDT
    ... sorry to rant, but what the heck was up with the smashing of the "Genesis Device from Star Trek 2" (hehe) I was expecting him to like, turn a few knobs & release the gas... but "Break Glass In Case of Emergency"?? I mean, I go along with a lot of craziness but they just couldn't get me to buy that. "Why yes, this object is imperative to the entire mission, let's keep it in a very fragile casing." ...

    oh and are we really to believe that nobody from "mission control" tried to get in touch with them in the course of 7 days?

    Moreover, am I remembering wrong or did the Doctor defer to Martha on Jenny being actually dead-dead? If so, how am I supposed to believe that he would he defer to her on matters of Gallifreyan biology? bahhhhh!

    ...*end of rant*

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     Sunday, May 11 2008 @ 09:15 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Magpie] Moreover, am I remembering wrong or did the Doctor defer to Martha on Jenny being actually dead-dead? If so, how am I supposed to believe that he would he defer to her on matters of Gallifreyan biology? bahhhhh!

    ...*end of rant*


    Well maybe because she was an extrapolation based on a Gallifreyan DNA sample ( the Doctor's ) so she may not be truely Gallifreyan in physiology - just very similar, especially if you count the american TV movie as canon since according to it the Doctor is half human and not pure Gallifreyan himself.

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     Sunday, May 11 2008 @ 10:00 AM EDT
    There's a few negatives about this episode:

    1. The 45 min. episode just doesn't working for trying to put all of that emotion and background together in such a short time frame. Just doesn't work right.
    2. The weakness of the "7 days" idea. I don't care how many generations people went through, you're telling me that they have a spaceship that can travel across the stars, but no one can write down in a journal log what's happened seven days ago?
    3. And the sheer insanity: If the Hath and humans went through all of those generations each day in an "endless" war (that was only 7 days long) where did they get all the energy, equipment and food, etc. to do all of this?

    I understand it's a TV show, but I like some semblance of reality in a story.

    4. Jenny's death and resurrection. I thought her dying was predictable but necessary. Her spontaneous coming back was lame, rushed and extremely cheesy. I would have rather have been close to death and then regenerated but chosen to stay to help out. I understand that the writers want to keep it as a surprise from the Doctor that she's still alive, but wasn't there a better way to do it?

    Quick comment: Did anyone recognize Nigel Terry (the General) from the 1981 movie Excalibur (he was King Arthur)? Boy, seeing him on screen made we want to dig my Excalibur movie out. I loved him in that.

    All in all, a mixed bag of an episode for me. I have to be honest: The writing and the rushed sequences are not doing it for me this series. The acting has been fine, but the rushed story lines are really detracting from the shows.

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     Sunday, May 11 2008 @ 10:45 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Mohan]
    2. The weakness of the "7 days" idea. I don't care how many generations people went through, you're telling me that they have a spaceship that can travel across the stars, but no one can write down in a journal log what's happened seven days ago?.


    iiiiggzaaacktleeeee! hehe

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     Sunday, May 11 2008 @ 02:06 PM EDT


    Though predictable, I found it to be a fairly potent episode thanks mainly to Georgia Moffett's stellar portrayal of Jenny.

    The writing was great... so was Tennant (as usual), Tate and Ageyman...

    However...

    MAJOR points taken away for the Hath!

    Not since the Terileptils, have I felt forced to endure a race that looks so f-ing ridiculous...

    And as with "The Visitation", I felt taken completely out of the story every time they graced the screen with their presence.

    It's because of this I'm giving the "The Doctor's Daughter" 3 (out of 5) TARDIS groans.

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    PS - Nice catch (and screen capture) to whoever it was that spotted that UNIT logo in the background!

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