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stjohnny
Registered: 02/16/06
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I'll keep it short this week... 4/5
A terrific yarn what?
Bad stuffs:
-I didn't like the silly alien plot either, it was aimed a bit too much at younger audiences, and NOT at like minded Sci-Fi fans.
-Also the sexuality issues seemed a bit OTT. (IMHO)
-I didn't like the wasp element. I think they could have used a much deadlier/scarier enemy. It seemed TOO much, and the CGI couldn't keep up with the speed of the live action. It bungled and clumsily smashed it's way around the manor. Wasps are extremely fast, they WOULD catch Donna in a room, they WOULD catch up with Bessie, and they WOULD catch you running through a corridor. 1/2 inch wasps do, so why not a 6ft one?
-A kiss? After saying how skinny and rubbish he was for weeks?
Good stuffs:
-Anyone notice the lack of a certain sonic device all the way through the episode?
-All the stuff in the trunk at the end. Ceaser was it? maybe?
-Doctor/Donna interaction, when they were apart, you just couldn't wait for them to be re-united!
That's all from me now, i'm off back to bed to nurse the hangover from hell! Damn Czech lager! |
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old china
Registered: 06/07/06
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| Sunday, May 18 2008 @ 08:30 AM EDT |
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| [Quote by: stjohnny] That's all from me now, i'm off back to bed to nurse the hangover from hell! Damn Czech lager! |
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The Czech lager got me on Friday. Yesterday, I felt how you do today. Rubbish!
I can't believe you gave the episode 4/5 when it sounds as though you had big issues with most of it! But hey ho.
I really didn't go for this episode at all, but maybe my opinion was teinted by my hangover 
I'm hoping the season kicks off properly next time, when Mr Moffat joins in. I've tended to prefer the seasons later, heavier eps anyway, and am hoping this is where it starts. I'm craving something a bit more challenging.
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stjohnny
Registered: 02/16/06
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| Sunday, May 18 2008 @ 08:55 AM EDT |
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| But i ENJOYED the episode, which is most important! I only had real issues with the WASP, which given the strength of everything else, i was able to poo poo! |
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daveac
Registered: 04/12/06
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| Sunday, May 18 2008 @ 10:56 AM EDT |
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Talk about connections!!
Here's:-
'The Unicorn and the Rose' (big piture to big for direct link)
here
AND
'The Unicorn and the Sparrow' (again a large image)
here
Cheers, daveac
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rocko
Registered: 07/21/06
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| Sunday, May 18 2008 @ 11:59 AM EDT |
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Did the copyright page of the book actually say "5,000,000,000" for the year? Didn't the people in "The End of the World" actually use a different numbering system like "5028/apple"? (I don't recall the exact line, though.)
[Edit- found it. It was "5.5/Apple/26".] |
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Did you say "74,384,338 to 1 against"? That's my lucky number!
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lonelyangel10
Registered: 05/27/07
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| Sunday, May 18 2008 @ 12:47 PM EDT |
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Ok, so I listened to a bit of podshock today and I do agree with what Louis is saying because from a scifi angle it wasn't a very believable story.
yet, the elements of a murder mystery and comedy send up were very enjoyable, though the actual crimes involving a murder and a jewel thief were completely rubbish, the who dunnit story was what made the episode.
The character of Donna seemed to contradict herself already. Here she gave the Doctor something to think about with saving innocent people(in episode 2) and then she goes and kills the Vicor. I think The Doctor at first was shocked that she did so, because it was the murderous thoughts causing the problem not the will of the character.
Plus, now she's falling for The Doctor? He really is Casanova... 
3/5 episode with half the points going to the poisoned scene. Who knew salt was too salty-lol |
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"WOT?...WOT?" "WOT??????!!!!!" OUT!OUT!OUT!
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Idiom
Registered: 04/08/08
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| Sunday, May 18 2008 @ 01:48 PM EDT |
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| [Quote by: lonelyangel10] Plus, now she's falling for The Doctor? He really is Casanova... |
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I didn't understand it that way. She lissed him because he needed something to shock his system - the implication that she knew he would be appalled. Later when she talks about him to Agatha, she is talking about the man who has saved her. the man who has recognised the positive parts of her characer and not led her on. He is her best friend and her saviour. |
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tarashnat
Registered: 08/17/05
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| Sunday, May 18 2008 @ 02:36 PM EDT |
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| [Quote by: stjohnny] -Anyone notice the lack of a certain sonic device all the way through the episode? |
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He did pull it out to examine the body of Prof. Peach.He may have used it one other time, not sure. |
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Daleks don't accept apologies! YOU WILL BE EXTERMINATED!
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shockeye07
Registered: 02/14/07
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| Sunday, May 18 2008 @ 03:12 PM EDT |
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4/5.
Things I liked: Donna. I think this was Catherine Tate's best performance so far, she was very funny & natural. The actress playing Agatha Christie (sorry cant remember her name) she was so unusual looking & out in a strong performance. Like most other people seeing Christopher Benjamin again. Seeing Felicity Kendal. Along with Liz Sladen she was a BIG fantasy of my teenage years. The editing was fantastic.
Things I didn't like:
The wasp. Just did'nt do it for me & was pointless. Err thats it.....
Looking forward to seeing another of my favourite actress Alex Kingston next. |
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old china
Registered: 06/07/06
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| Sunday, May 18 2008 @ 04:07 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: rocko] Did the copyright page of the book actually say "5,000,000,000" for the year? Didn't the people in "The End of the World" actually use a different numbering system like "5028/apple"? (I don't recall the exact line, though.)
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Actually, that's something else that irks me everytime it comes up in new-Who. It bothered me in Utopia too, the fact that humans were still the same, so far into the future.
RTD makes a point of saying people in the future will be exactly the same as we are now. But in the year 5 billion humans will have evolved to look totally different, let alone still reading raggedy old Agatha Christie paper backs.
Today, people just about read Homer from 3,000 years ago. In RTD's universe, people will probably still be watching EastEnders in the year 5 Billion and thinking it's brilliant.
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daveac
Registered: 04/12/06
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| Sunday, May 18 2008 @ 04:25 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: old china] let alone still reading raggedy old Agatha Christie paper backs.
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It did say it was a 'replication'
Cheers, daveac |
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DarthSkeptical
Registered: 03/11/06
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| Sunday, May 18 2008 @ 04:44 PM EDT |
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| Heh, the "sound of drums" in the garden party. Whatever could that mean? |
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"I think of myself as ambitious in casting terms, and I know that Bonnie [Langford] has the potential to make the part totally unirritating . . ." — JNT, 1986
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Louis
Registered: 01/01/04
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| Sunday, May 18 2008 @ 04:50 PM EDT |
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Was it reverse psychology by making the Vicar the guilty party in this "mystery"? I mean, did they think that the viewers would believe they would not make the one least likely to commit murder the murderer, so they assumed we would think it would have to be someone less obvious, so they made it the Vicar anyway.
I don't know, I thought making it the Vicar was all too easy and would have guessed it was him from the very beginning... I thought they would have done better by not making it the least likely character.
Anyway, I forgot to mention that point in the live podcast earlier today.
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DarthSkeptical
Registered: 03/11/06
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| Sunday, May 18 2008 @ 04:55 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: Louis]
Was it reverse psychology by making the Vicar the guilty party in this "mystery"? I mean, did they think that the viewers would believe they would not make the one least likely to commit murder the murderer, so they assumed we would think it would have to be someone less obvious, so they made it the Vicar anyway.
I don't know, I thought making it the Vicar was all too easy and would have guessed it was him from the very beginning... I thought they would have done better by not making it the least likely character.
Anyway, I forgot to mention that point in the live podcast earlier today.
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| But thatʻs a Christie trademark. She would write her novels until the last chapter, then choose the least likely character to be the guilty party. Then sheʻd go back through the manuscript and edit appropriately. Completely appropriate to make it the vicar.
The real point is not whether you would have guessed it was him, but whether you actually did. I didnʻt. I was thinking it was the young footman (the sonʻs lover). |
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"I think of myself as ambitious in casting terms, and I know that Bonnie [Langford] has the potential to make the part totally unirritating . . ." — JNT, 1986
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Louis
Registered: 01/01/04
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| Sunday, May 18 2008 @ 05:06 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: stjohnny] ..
-Also the sexuality issues seemed a bit OTT. (IMHO)
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Over the top? Really? I thought it was hardly touched upon. Over the top? It didn't even seem to get close to the top, let along going over it. All in all, it was all very tame.
[Quote by: stjohnny] ..
-A kiss? After saying how skinny and rubbish he was for weeks?
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I suppose that was why she used it as "shock" element. Not that any of us in the audience watching were shocked by it. We knew it was going to come sooner or later.
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