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     Thursday, June 05 2008 @ 12:55 AM EDT
    Whatever could you mean, Taras?

    Frogs and Perversions?
    Over, sir? No—press "Frog".
    Rose servo for Spring?
    O'er Rev. for gross spin?
    Prove ERR of gross sin?
    Señor Rev. or frog piss?

    or possibly my favorite:

    Eros proven, if gross'r?

    "I think of myself as ambitious in casting terms, and I know that Bonnie [Langford] has the potential to make the part totally unirritating . . ." — JNT, 1986
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     Thursday, June 05 2008 @ 01:37 AM EDT
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    Halfway through it, I was twittering that at least there is no talking slabs... and then came the ending. A talking slab on rod is still a talking slab.
    Alright, I've totally misapprehended you for, what, two years now, Louis. I thought your objection to the "talking slab" was the implied oral sex. Now it's a general aversion to talking slabs? Why? What have talking slabs ever done to you?

    I mean they're more visually interesting than the immobile-faced Sea Devils in mesh dresses, surely. Or the Chumblies. Or the Monoids. Or the Sensorites. Or those fake "Americans" in "The Gunfighters". Or Ace.

    "I think of myself as ambitious in casting terms, and I know that Bonnie [Langford] has the potential to make the part totally unirritating . . ." — JNT, 1986
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     Thursday, June 05 2008 @ 01:55 AM EDT
    No that I buy into River being Captain Jack, But as for the "sex change" wasn't the Face of Boe mentioned to be pregnant in The Long Game.

    Since Jack has in fact seen the Doctor this young and mentions how the Doctor has not met him yet he seems a very low chance option.

    "If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the Universe." - Carl Sagan
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     Thursday, June 05 2008 @ 05:25 AM EDT
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    [Quote  by:  daveac]
    [Quote  by:  cybercolin] Did she actually mean another Doctor? She could have meant an older 10th Doctor.


    It seemed to be the eyes she focused on - rather than the face.

    I took it to mean - that since it was she that sent the message - she knew he was the 'doctor' when they arrived but it was the 'young eyes' that she noticed.

    If we believe that part of the doctor lives through each re-generation - it would be the brightness of the eyes that would indicate their current (sorry 'total' ) age as it were.

    Cheers, daveac
    Assuming River Song turns out to be a "regular" being who resides on the normal plane of existence, I really do think she means an older 10th Doctor. She recognized him too immediately. And there's the bit about her knowing of Donna. The Doctor doesn't usually tell current companions about former ones. This regeneration has shown a propensity to do so, but only about ones from his immediate past. (And really, only because he met both Donna and Martha within a relatively short period of time after Rose left, and he was still smarting from that pain.) It's quite unlikely, IMO, that she would have known of Donna if "her" Doctor were the 12th. I mean, does Donna know Mel? More to the point, did Rose know SJS until actually confronted by her? Did we hear about Katarina from the 3d Doctor or Adric from the 7th? Nah, I'm goin' out on a limb and sayin' she knows this Doctor, and whatever happens to Donna rocks him to his core at the same level Rose's departure did.

    What excites me about this prospect is the possibility that the Tenth Doctor's regeneration might be one that is depicted as happening to an "aged" DT. That would be bloody fantastic, allowing for an immense world of storytelling possibilities with the 10th Doctor after DT leaves. Plus it would provide a nifty gap into which an older DT could return to the show as an older actor for a special.


    Or maybe that's what they WANT us to think???

    Drink
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     Friday, June 06 2008 @ 05:32 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  sgb1975]
    Anybody know if Torchwood is still active in the 51st century? Perhaps she works for them. That would certainly give her access to extensive knowledge about The Doctor...
    Well, some future version of Torchwood is the answer to a quiz show question in the 202d century. And they're active enough during the 42d century to have sent the Walker expedition to a planet orbiting a black hole. It's unclear, though, just what the differences between the Torchwood Archives and Torchwood might be, as, presumably, they would no longer have the goal of protecting solely British interests.

    "I think of myself as ambitious in casting terms, and I know that Bonnie [Langford] has the potential to make the part totally unirritating . . ." — JNT, 1986
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     Friday, June 06 2008 @ 04:21 PM EDT

    The voting for this episode gives a high rating - but not many people have voted.

    I wonder if lot's of members haven't yet made up their mind yet as to whether this was a great episode or the build-up to an anti-climax
    (if you see what I mean)

    Cheers, daveac

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     Friday, June 06 2008 @ 05:55 PM EDT
    I just forgot to vote. but now maybe I'll waitSmile YAY only one more sleep till all our questions are answered!!!!!

    If Worzel Gummidge and the Third Doctor had a fist fight - who would win?
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     Friday, June 06 2008 @ 05:56 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  DarthSkeptical] Whatever could you mean, Taras?

    Frogs and Perversions?
    Over, sir? No—press "Frog".
    Rose servo for Spring?
    O'er Rev. for gross spin?
    Prove ERR of gross sin?
    Señor Rev. or frog piss?

    or possibly my favorite:

    Eros proven, if gross'r?


    Forever Gross Prison
    Pros Reversing Roofs
    Griever For Sponsors
    Governess For Priors
    Gross For Perversion
    Porn Fogs Reservoirs
    Reservoirs Of Prongs
    Pros Forgive Snorers
    Sponsor River's Gofer
    Professor Rover's Gin
    Version For Progress
    Grosser Version Prof
    Prisoners Over Frogs
    Free Prongs Or Visors

    and of course...

    Porn Is Forever Gross

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     Friday, June 06 2008 @ 05:57 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Magpie] I just forgot to vote. but now maybe I'll waitSmile YAY only one more sleep till all our questions are answered!!!!!

    How can you sleep...???

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     Friday, June 06 2008 @ 06:22 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  DarthSkeptical]
    I mean they're more visually interesting than the immobile-faced Sea Devils in mesh dresses, surely. Or the Chumblies. Or the Monoids. Or the Sensorites. Or those fake "Americans" in "The Gunfighters". Or Ace.


    You just had to do it, didn't you? How did I know that statement was going to end with "Ace"??? I know it was you Fredo Darth. You broke my heart. You broke my heart!

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     Friday, June 06 2008 @ 06:36 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  cybercolin] I don't know what to say. Its either the first part of the best two parter we've had. or its part one of a huge let down. But I do agree this is the best series (at the moment!) we've had, so far!

    I did think for one second that River Song was Bernice Summerfield, but I expelled it as pure madness!

    I'll post a review when i've seen it again!


    I was breathless at first at the prospect that she might be Bennie--wouldn't that have been a hoot! And in character for how the rest of the episode played out. But it quickly occurred to me--the Bennie stories appear with earlier regenerations. Nuts! It would have been a lark.

    The airport sandwich tasted like a 7-course meal of postage stamps.
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     Friday, June 06 2008 @ 06:52 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  cybercolin] Did she actually mean another Doctor? She could have meant an older 10th Doctor.

    Anyway, we've had enough of a sterotypical 'btits' with their 'british accents'. I thought the casting of Chris Eccelston changed that.

    Bill Nighy should never be allowed near Doctor Who! What next? Hugh Grant as The Master? Neutral


    Hugh Grant can't be the Master--he's already been the Doctor! (Curse of Fatal Death, written by Stephen Moffat)

    The airport sandwich tasted like a 7-course meal of postage stamps.
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     Friday, June 06 2008 @ 08:10 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  daveac]
    The voting for this episode gives a high rating - but not many people have voted.

    I wonder if lot's of members haven't yet made up their mind yet as to whether this was a great episode or the build-up to an anti-climax
    (if you see what I mean)

    Cheers, daveac


    I'm waiting. I just don't know what to think yet...

    supremacy is relative
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     Friday, June 06 2008 @ 08:37 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  mad4plaid]
    [Quote  by:  daveac]
    The voting for this episode gives a high rating - but not many people have voted.

    I wonder if lot's of members haven't yet made up their mind yet as to whether this was a great episode or the build-up to an anti-climax
    (if you see what I mean)
    I'm waiting. I just don't know what to think yet...
    Yeah, me too, actually. I literally cannot imagine how this thing's going to be wrapped up. That's usually a sign of good writing. However it almost deserves a 5 for two things, alone. First, it doesn't use the seeming Series 4-standard purple in much of its visual design. And second, it marks the return of Euros Lyn, which is, to me, just as big a deal as it being a Steven Moffat episode. While I give Harper his due for "The Unicorn and the Wasp", I'm seriously over this RTD obsession with Graham Harper. If I see that "looking through a magnifying glass" shot from Harper one more time, I'm gonna scream.

    If there's one thing I hope the Moffat era will bring, it's more work for the particular directors who've done his (full) episodes. They're as much responsible for Moffat's reputation as "the master of fear" as he is. Seriously, the amount of work that Harper's gotten since 2006 is totally disproportionate to his ability to actually scare people. After "Girl in the Fireplace", Lyn was handed two of the less creepy scripts of the season, and he was still able to frame thing in a way that offered the odd chill down the spine.

    So bring on Hettie, James and Euros in 2010, Mr. Moffat, and throw Harper the "comedy/romance" scripts, if ya really want to match a director to their strengths.


    "I think of myself as ambitious in casting terms, and I know that Bonnie [Langford] has the potential to make the part totally unirritating . . ." — JNT, 1986
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     Friday, June 06 2008 @ 11:50 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Magpie] I just forgot to vote. but now maybe I'll waitSmile YAY only one more sleep till all our questions are answered!!!!!


    Do you really think they'll be that kind? [shrug] I'm not getting my hopes up that high...

    Did you say "74,384,338 to 1 against"? That's my lucky number!
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