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Gabriel Chase
Registered: 04/18/08
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quick question
what do we call next season?
season 4b? season 5? the 2009 mini season? season 31? the special year? |
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Somewhere the tea is getting cold
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Louis
Registered: 01/01/04
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| Friday, June 06 2008 @ 01:34 PM EDT |
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I am calling it the 2009 series... Just as I call the current series the 2008 series. It is as simple as that. This whole restarting with the numbering of the series in 2005 is bollocks to me. It only serves to confuse people.
There were plenty of Doctor Who series before "Series 1" -- we were just calling them "seasons" at the time.
I remember an incident when "Series 1" first came to DVD, there was a retailer (I can't recall which now) that had it available for pre-order and in it's description it had William Hartnell and 1963 leading people to believe that there was going to be a complete box set of the first William Hartnell season available. It was an error, it was really the Christopher Eccelston "series 1"...
Doctor Who premiered in 1963, not 2005 people. If you wanted this to be separate, perhaps it should have been called something else or make it a remake. The fact that it continues the adventures from the first 8 Doctors means that it should just be a continuation of the original series.
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sgb1975
Registered: 06/19/06
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| Friday, June 06 2008 @ 01:41 PM EDT |
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| [Quote by: Louis]I am calling it the 2009 series... Just as I call the current series the 2008 series. It is as simple as that. This whole restarting with the numbering of the series in 2005 is bollocks to me. It only serves to confuse people. |
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I'm fine with either actually (series 1, or series 2005). I've gotten used to them both. But for sake of conversation, do you then consider The Christmas Invasion part of the 2005 series? To me, the season finale is pretty much the end of the season (The Parting of the Ways). I more or less think of TCI as Series 2 - episode 0. But that's just me... |
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tarashnat
Registered: 08/17/05
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| Friday, June 06 2008 @ 01:49 PM EDT |
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The Christmas Invasion comes with the Series Two box set...
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DarthSkeptical
Registered: 03/11/06
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| Friday, June 06 2008 @ 07:25 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: Louis]
I am calling it the 2009 series... Just as I call the current series the 2008 series. It is as simple as that. This whole restarting with the numbering of the series in 2005 is bollocks to me. It only serves to confuse people.
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| This is still an issue? Maybe I'm inclined to go with "starting over" from my long interest in comic books, but as far as I'm concerned, it's completely appropriate for a new series with an old name to start renumbering at #1. Calling Tennant's third year Doctor Who (2005): Series 4 is the only thing that makes any sense to me.
Once you get well and truly cancelled, and there's a substantial gap of time before you start producing new episodes, you have to consider the new programme a whole new production. Especially if there's a wholesale change of production staff. Briefly cancelled shows, like Family Guy and Jericho can get by with keeping the returning seasons under the same numbering schemes — largely because they were rescued from cancellation, involve the same staff, and have the same format. But with Doctor Who, you're talking a 15-year gap. A huge chunk of the original audience for Eccleston's year wouldn't have even recognized that there was a preceding show. And another huge chunk of people might have stopped watching long before the original show limped to its demise. I would think that the majority of the 2005 audience either didn't have an experience of the old show at all, or hadn't seen it since around the time Colin Baker took over from Peter. You're also talking about a totally different format. While respectful of the old series, 2005 offered a soft, but clear, reboot.
More to the point, it's clearly the artists' intent that it be regarded as a "new series", as RTD was keen to market it as "Series 1" (while allowing that older fans might think of it as S27) precisely because he wanted people to view it as something primarily intended for a new audience. That decision should, IMO, be honored. |
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Louis
Registered: 01/01/04
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| Saturday, June 07 2008 @ 01:25 AM EDT |
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Seems like they are trying to have it both ways, in my opinion.
Just like the Torchwood promotional material claiming it was from the creators of Doctor Who... Really? Sidney Newman had a hand in Torchwood?
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tarashnat
Registered: 08/17/05
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| Saturday, June 07 2008 @ 02:32 AM EDT |
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[Quote by: Louis]
Seems like they are trying to have it both ways, in my opinion.
Just like the Torchwood promotional material claiming it was from the creators of Doctor Who... Really? Sidney Newman had a hand in Torchwood?
Cheers,
Louis |
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The BBC created Doctor Who and Torchwood... what's the problem? |
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Gabriel Chase
Registered: 04/18/08
Posts: 97
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| Saturday, June 07 2008 @ 06:08 AM EDT |
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didnt the american TW poster have Gardner and Davies name on it?
Anway. the 2009 specials are probably what Ill go with. |
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romana_II
Registered: 12/31/07
Posts: 182
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| Saturday, June 07 2008 @ 07:37 AM EDT |
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I'm calling it series 4.5 or 30.5 for whichever boat your in. They are still part of series 4 in my mind.
But that's just me. |
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bye bye david :(
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cybercolin
Registered: 11/12/07
Posts: 276
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| Saturday, June 07 2008 @ 07:44 AM EDT |
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| I'm keeping them separate ala the TV Movie, but I will count the 2009 Christmas episode as the first episode of series 5. |
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mad4plaid
Registered: 02/02/06
Posts: 880
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| Sunday, July 06 2008 @ 04:41 PM EDT |
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I just watched an interview with RTD on This Morning (I think that's what the show was called) from July 4th. RTD said there were four specials "yet to come."
So, here's my question: Is that a Christmas special plus three OR a Christmas special plus four one hour shows in 2009?
(he did confirm the specials were only one hour: durn it!) |
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capricorn1
Registered: 04/19/06
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| Sunday, July 06 2008 @ 04:52 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: Louis]
I am calling it the 2009 series... Just as I call the current series the 2008 series. It is as simple as that. This whole restarting with the numbering of the series in 2005 is bollocks to me. It only serves to confuse people. |
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With respect, you're approaching this as a long term Doctor Who Fan and in this day and age, we are in the minority not the majority. There are millions of people out there who enjoy the show week after week and would call themselves fans but are not aware of Doctor Who's rich past.
IMHO, when they brought the series back starting from 'series 1' was the correct thing to do. The fans were always going to know what's what, people who had never heard of Doctor Who didn't have to worry about joining in the middle of something and people who hated classic Doctor Who could be assured that this was something new and different! |
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daveac
Registered: 04/12/06
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| Sunday, July 06 2008 @ 05:45 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: capricorn1]
and people who hated classic Doctor Who could be assured that this was something new and different! |
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Hated Classic Who!
Name one......OK.....name two.....OK.....name three.....OK....name
I give up.
Classic Who can only now be enjoyed by those of us (that as Louis would say) can watch with our 1960's glasses on.
As I said on PodShock I'd rather RTD hadn't taken DR Who in this direction - but I think he wrapped it all up rather nicely.
Cheers, daveac
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FixerMX
Registered: 09/12/07
Posts: 48
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| Sunday, July 06 2008 @ 06:04 PM EDT |
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The current Doctor Who is a new series with a proud legacy but profoundly different sensibilities for a modern era. It's entirely fitting to call its 2005 season "Series 1."
Given that Torchwood is produced by the current creators of Doctor Who, I have no problem with the DVD statement as well. |
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rheimbro
Registered: 04/18/08
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| Sunday, July 06 2008 @ 07:25 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: daveac]
Classic Who can only now be enjoyed by those of us (that as Louis would say) can watch with our 1960's glasses on.
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I should hope not!
Perhaps on an aesthetic level, but as one of the new fans to all things Who, there is still good drama and writing in those shows that don't require 60's/70's/80's glasses. (granted there is a lot of not good drama at times too).
I am a sucker for origin stories, and when it comes to the new series, there 8 doctors worth of origin story for me to explore still, and I have been loving the chance to explore his past and find myself pulled into some of these old stories just as much as the new ones. |
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