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Mohan
Registered: 01/01/06
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Just finished watching "The Stolen Earth" and I have to say that this episode kept me on my toes. But the Doctor regenerating? What!? I thought that Rose was going to die.
But there's a lot of hints in this episode: With the Doctor's "faithful companion" die? What about the Shadow Proclamation?
Holy moly! Lots of great stuff in this episode. Now I have to wait all week! Geez. At least it's not until Jan 2009 like BSG.  |
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Sideburn Zombie
Registered: 01/20/08
Posts: 52
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| Saturday, June 28 2008 @ 09:13 PM EDT |
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| David Tennant can't regenerate. My wife likes him and I was told "That there will be no more Doctor Who in this house if he is gone." Which means I'll have to go back to watching Doctor Who, Crying in the closet under a big blanket behind the box of old clothes that don't fit anymore but I'll fit into them again one day. PLEASE DON'T GO!!! I like watching Doctor Who on the couch. |
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Remember Me To Gallifrey!! Be sure to check Out the Phase Abandon Podcast on TalkShoe.com
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tarashnat
Registered: 08/17/05
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| Saturday, June 28 2008 @ 09:14 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: Fairport]
Does that mean you know what's going to happen next week, Louis? You can tell an old friend. Give me a hint... give me something. I can't wait a whole week. It's just not fair  |
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One of my posts above has a hint. But that's all your getting... |
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Daleks don't accept apologies! YOU WILL BE EXTERMINATED!
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joereform
Registered: 06/11/06
Posts: 52
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| Saturday, June 28 2008 @ 09:18 PM EDT |
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My mouth was agape for the last three minutes. Wow. Why don't you just go out with a bang, RTD?
Wow. |
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Sabalon
Registered: 09/19/06
Posts: 73
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| Saturday, June 28 2008 @ 09:19 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: daveac]
Why did the Doctor say to Donna near the start 'In your Universe' rather that 'In our Universe' ?
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I'm guessing you mean the bit about Rose crossing from her Universe into Donna's universe showing things are breaking down? Infinite number of universes for an infinite number of decisions. Donna choosing to go right spawned a private universe for that decision and that is what Rose went into. |
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Fairport
Registered: 06/25/07
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| Saturday, June 28 2008 @ 09:21 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: tarashnat] [Quote by: Fairport]
Does that mean you know what's going to happen next week, Louis? You can tell an old friend. Give me a hint... give me something. I can't wait a whole week. It's just not fair |
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One of my posts above has a hint. But that's all your getting... |
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There's going to be more budget cuts? Just kidding? But what does double bluff mean? Well, I know what the phrase means, but I can't fit together the context here. fairport76@yahoo.com ...that's my email addy. Feel free to help this poor soul make sense of this It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World episode of Doctor Who. |
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Sabalon
Registered: 09/19/06
Posts: 73
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| Saturday, June 28 2008 @ 09:40 PM EDT |
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WOW.
Now that the one word review is aside.
I've not watched the Sarah Jane stuff. Naming the machine Mr. Smith was kinda cute. Nice to see Torchwood back - I miss Toshi though.
The shadow proclamation - Someone steals 26 planets and they sit around on their set out of the end of NeverEnding Story (was looking for the Ivory Tower). Someone steals Earth and it's war. Seemed a way of bringing something that has been brought up over and over into the story. Unless they play a part next week, it seemed kinda pointless. Could have come up with another way for the Doc to work out all the missing planets.
Davros - Never been a fan. However, this was a good use of him (so far). I liked how they had him at the time war. Also, I like the way he seems to be over the Supreme Dalek, but is letting the Supreme do what he wants and learn the error of his ways.
Daleks - I was a bit concerned on them coming back from nothing (again.) However this more or less did it well. Caan temporal shifted from NYC to right where Davros was in the time war and rescued them. Pretty nifty idea. Also, was there a spacial shift, or did that part of the time war take place around earth??? I LOVED the the fact that the new Daleks are from Davros's cells, thus making them true Kaleds. Also, I loved Caan being insane and able to see across time or something now.
Also, on the Daleks, when the leveled the house. Makes me want to go hunt for my "Real Daleks don't climb stairs, they just level the building" pin.
Cel Phone thing - This was the one time I groaned out loud. At first it was going good - have Torchwood somehow get the signal out via the rift. But then having every phone on earth dial it - how would that help???
the Prediction - Caan stating that the one most loyal to the Doctor would die forever. Was it going to be Rose, Donna, Martha, SJS. The scenes were setup, and then the Doctor gets shot. hmmm....next week I guess.
Harriet Jones, former PM - Love the flashing the badge. Not sure what to make of all the subnet thing though. Loved the Daleks with "We know who you are."
The regen - very early on in the episode they made a point of showing the 'jar-o-hand', which means in the first 20 seconds of next week it will somehow keep the Doctor from regenerating. If it doesn't and somehow lets him turn back into DT, I will be pissed. It did make for a helluva cliffhanger. I was expecting them to wait until the last second to show Davros on the screen, and call that a cliffhanger.
The damn BBC - okay, in a perfect world the Dalek and Davros thing would have been kept a secret. Imagine if no one knew about their return and then when the first "Exterminate" comes across the waves. That would have been incredible. Also, Lis Sladen should win an award for the instant of her reaction to hearing the "Exterminate".
Well...over all it was a very interesting episode, but the proof will be in the finale next week and how things are resolved. I think the pacing was good. I really liked the fact that the Doctor wasn't running around the whole time fighting the Daleks. He pretty much spent the episode in the TARDIS just talking to Donna. Also, I don't recall seeing the damned screwdriver even once!
The FX for the radio signal going out was a little hokey. Also, while the idea of having the Cascade one second out of time was good, do we have to keep having things in the TARDIS flaming, etc...
Well, I probably forgot some things I wanted to add in. Can't believe I have to wait a whole week. Gonna have to try and avoid any spoilers, etc... though. Want a good surprise!
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rocko
Registered: 07/21/06
Posts: 370
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| Saturday, June 28 2008 @ 10:27 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: tarashnat] [Quote by: Fairport]
Does that mean you know what's going to happen next week, Louis? You can tell an old friend. Give me a hint... give me something. I can't wait a whole week. It's just not fair |
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One of my posts above has a hint. But that's all your getting... |
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Actually, it's a hint and a very bad pun! |
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Did you say "74,384,338 to 1 against"? That's my lucky number!
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tarashnat
Registered: 08/17/05
Posts: 3062
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| Saturday, June 28 2008 @ 10:49 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: Tin Dog Podcast] I know that we are all fixated on the end but ive got a DULL sarah jane question.
HOW is Mr Smith back? |
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You need to rewatch the last episode of SJA... (reprogrammed by virus) |
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Daleks don't accept apologies! YOU WILL BE EXTERMINATED!
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odessasteps
Registered: 05/10/08
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| Saturday, June 28 2008 @ 10:51 PM EDT |
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For you UK fans out there...
Is that telephone number they showed a "dummy" number, like the 555 exchange used by phones on tv shows in the states?
Or has the BBC done something clever with that number, like you get a message from the Doctor when you call? |
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tarashnat
Registered: 08/17/05
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| Saturday, June 28 2008 @ 10:59 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: odessasteps]
For you UK fans out there...
Is that telephone number they showed a "dummy" number, like the 555 exchange used by phones on tv shows in the states?
Or has the BBC done something clever with that number, like you get a message from the Doctor when you call? |
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I believe that someone who had access to a reviewers' copy tried the number and it was not in service (then). |
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Daleks don't accept apologies! YOU WILL BE EXTERMINATED!
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Magpie
Registered: 06/29/06
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| Saturday, June 28 2008 @ 11:03 PM EDT |
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there is nothing. I can possibly. say.
except... I am SO GLAD I steered clear of most spoilers cos I DID NOT SEE THAT *cough* (sorry hard to stop myself from shouting here, I'm so excited...what was I saying? oh yes) I did not see that coming. Totally blindsided.
I fancy David Tennant, he can't leave yet! But... could be a bluff. But if it's not, that's ok, too.
God. What else can I say?!? I wish I wasn't watching it alone so I could jump around the house shrieking with another shrieking person!!!
alas!!!! ARUGH! I Can't believe it!!! It was SO GREAT! I loved seeing everyone together, especially Sarah Jane and Gwen! I loved Grandpa, again - he had such nice funny lines. And poor Rose - sidelined... I cannot count the ways I thought this was fantastic. I think I just have to watch it again! |
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If Worzel Gummidge and the Third Doctor had a fist fight - who would win?
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seanhuxter
Registered: 08/27/05
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| Saturday, June 28 2008 @ 11:05 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: Sabalon] WOW.
Now that the one word review is aside.
I've not watched the Sarah Jane stuff. Naming the machine Mr. Smith was kinda cute. Nice to see Torchwood back - I miss Toshi though.
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There are way too many Smiths and Joneses in Doctor Who. Harriet Jones? Martha Jones? Sarah Jane Smith, Doctor Smith, Mister Smith...
[Quote by: Sabalon]The shadow proclamation - Someone steals 26 planets and they sit around on their set out of the end of NeverEnding Story (was looking for the Ivory Tower). Someone steals Earth and it's war.
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I believe they said that the planets were all taken at exactly the same time (with the exception of the few that were taken long ago and no one had an explanation for, including the one alluded to from ancient Greece.
And... did I hear the Doctor say "Calufrax"?
[Quote by: Sabalon]Seemed a way of bringing something that has been brought up over and over into the story. Unless they play a part next week, it seemed kinda pointless. Could have come up with another way for the Doc to work out all the missing planets.
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Not if it's RTD's Swan Song. He'd like to bring back as many elements that are his as he can, and having the Doctor use the "Shadow Proclamation" on various occasions does warrant a visit, even if it doesn't play an important role in this episode or the next. And it allowed him to bring back the Judoon. But I still have a feeling they'll feature in next season.
[Quote by: Sabalon]Daleks - I was a bit concerned on them coming back from nothing (again.) However this more or less did it well.
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I had a vague idea that Davros was making new Daleks from bees - that the hive mind mentality of bees would have been a perfect starting point for him to rebuild the Daleks from scratch, or nearly from scratch. Oh well...
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One solid hope is worth a cartload of uncertainties.
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Magpie
Registered: 06/29/06
Posts: 519
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| Saturday, June 28 2008 @ 11:08 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: seanhuxter]
And... did I hear the Doctor say "Calufrax"?
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Yes, yes you did!!! Nice little nod to the Pirate Planet))
... o... something just occurred to me. we still don't know about the cackling with the master's ring, so we have that to be resolved next week, too! |
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If Worzel Gummidge and the Third Doctor had a fist fight - who would win?
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silvanthalas
Registered: 07/23/07
Posts: 118
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| Saturday, June 28 2008 @ 11:16 PM EDT |
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| [Quote by: rocko] I heard rumors from a pretty good source that the hand will have a big part to play in the next ep. Looking forward to it! |
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Well, personally, I've thought it obvious that the hand will have something to do next week simply because it's been 'featured' several times now this season. Just another hint.
Right now, I'm not really feeling the shock of a potential regeneration, because I'm not convinced it's going to happen. I'm of the belief that something along the lines of what Dave suggested, where the hand is used to interfere with the regeneration, will result.
I knew *somebody* was gonna get shot by a Dalek as soon as the Doctor and Rose started running, and I probably should've guessed it was the Doctor, because of photos posted to the 'net weeks/months ago showing him on the ground. I think that was really the only predictable thing I saw.
| [Quote by: Sideburn Zombie] David Tennant can't regenerate. My wife likes him and I was told "That there will be no more Doctor Who in this house if he is gone." |
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*chuckle* This was pretty much my wife's response as well. She doesn't care if many of the past Doctors only lasted 3 seasons, she wants Tennant to stick around for several more. 
And boy did they leave a little loophole now into the past and the Time War with Dalek Caan stealing Davros away so Davros could survive. We want the Time War! We want the Time War!
Still could've done without the Daleks, and Davros. But everything else with Martha, Torchwood, SJS, and all... very well done. Although I do think the whole 'subnet' thing was somehow being invented by Harriet Jones seems a bit beyond her capabilities.
This episode wasn't as good as "Turn Left" - that one was almost impossible to top - but it was still very, very good.
And unlike "The Sound of Drums", I have no trepidations going into the finale, even if the Doctor has started a regeneration.  |
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