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     Saturday, November 15 2008 @ 02:34 PM EST
    On to the brief scene with the cyberhead - anybody notice that the pipes (for want of a better word) that normally run square to match the head are diagagonally on this one.
    What's up with that?

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     Saturday, November 15 2008 @ 02:54 PM EST
    well, if this is just The One Doctor (like the big finish story), then its all a set up by "The Doctor" and his companion, who are con artists. So, then the cyberman is probably part of the con, yes?

    As to the cleanliness of the scene: Perhaps we aren't on Earth this Christmas? Maybe its a planet called Dickens, but they are quite affluent?

    Louis, I couldn't get your embedded video to work - video not available or something. Perhaps a new one could be embedded? (didn't try it myself, didn't want to get it wrong).

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     Saturday, November 15 2008 @ 05:02 PM EST
    [Quote  by:  mad4plaid]
    Louis, I couldn't get your embedded video to work - video not available or something. Perhaps a new one could be embedded? (didn't try it myself, didn't want to get it wrong).


    Looks like it has been removed from YouTube. Cry

    You will probably have to look for it elsewhere on YouTube.

    I don't understand why they demanded YouTube to take it down, it is only a two minute clip and if nothing else, it helps further promote the Children in Need cause.

    Cheers,
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     Saturday, November 15 2008 @ 07:56 PM EST
    Like many other people have already said, so far the episode does tend to lend itself well to the The One Doctor storyline. Ros(e)ita's over-the-top accent and crude vocabulary (crude for a companion, including Ace) is similar to Clare Buckfield's portrayl of Sally-Anne. And there is the whole Rosita/Rose and Sally-Anne/Sarah Jane bit of business. The use of a real screwdriver in lieu of a sonic screwdriver also reminded me of the "port-o-potty instead of a police box" joke found in the audio drama, but maybe that's stretching things.

    If the epsiode is not borrowing from The One Doctor, maybe the story is a take on Westworld: a common bloke spends a small fortune on living out "The Doctor & Companion" fantasy through a lifelike simulation, only to then find himself facing a real threat. It's not the likeliest of possibilites, but it did cross my mind. It would explain why a marketplace in 1851 looked so clean.

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     Saturday, November 15 2008 @ 10:28 PM EST
    [Quote  by:  Fairport]Ros(e)ita's over-the-top accent

    I have little people in my house and i'm therefore qualified to say she uses the same accent as she does in the kids show 'Kerching', which is not bad btw!

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     Saturday, November 15 2008 @ 10:50 PM EST
    [Quote  by:  Fairport]If the epsiode is not borrowing from The One Doctor, maybe the story is a take on Westworld: a common bloke spends a small fortune on living out "The Doctor & Companion" fantasy through a lifelike simulation, only to then find himself facing a real threat. It's not the likeliest of possibilites, but it did cross my mind. It would explain why a marketplace in 1851 looked so clean.


    You know, thats not a bad thought. Who knows if it will go that way but that is some good thinking.

    You know, I didnt even notice how clean everything looked until the Doctor started talking to the little boy. And I said to myself, "That kids face needs to be dirtier." HAHA

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     Saturday, November 15 2008 @ 10:50 PM EST
    [Quote  by:  Louis] I don't understand why they demanded YouTube to take it down, it is only a two minute clip and if nothing else, it helps further promote the Children in Need cause.


    The BBC owns the rights and the BBC has the sole discretion as to how the clip is to be shown and/or distributed. Posting on YouTube does not constitute fair use, neither does "promotion" without the permission of the BBC. And since this is work for charity, the rights issues become more complex with regards to performers/royalties/replay, etc. I would assume that they also would like to defer promotion (of the episode) in other regions to their licensees (SciFi, BBCAmerica, ABC, CBC, etc.), as per the various agreements they sign. In most cases, the people watching on YouTube are probably not donating to Children In Need, so that argument really isn't valid. It is like saying "Let's steal from the BBC so we can help the children." And, if the BBC doesn't assert their rights vis-a-vis their property, then they could lose those rights (most copyright law seems to work that way). This last part is probably the most important.

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     Sunday, November 16 2008 @ 02:45 AM EST
    [Quote  by:  tarashnat]
    The BBC owns the rights and the BBC has the sole discretion as to how the clip is to be shown and/or distributed. Posting on YouTube does not constitute fair use, neither does "promotion" without the permission of the BBC. And since this is work for charity, the rights issues become more complex with regards to performers/royalties/replay, etc. I would assume that they also would like to defer promotion (of the episode) in other regions to their licensees (SciFi, BBCAmerica, ABC, CBC, etc.), as per the various agreements they sign. In most cases, the people watching on YouTube are probably not donating to Children In Need, so that argument really isn't valid. It is like saying "Let's steal from the BBC so we can help the children." And, if the BBC doesn't assert their rights vis-a-vis their property, then they could lose those rights (most copyright law seems to work that way). This last part is probably the most important.


    Actually that how trademarks work, where you have to assert your ownership in order to keep it.

    It probably has more to do with having it exclusively available at the BBC Children in Need site which unfortunately restricts the content by IP location. Again, this makes no sense for a charity fundraising cause to restrict it in this way as it only restricts the possible donations it can receive. The issue would be moot if they removed this location restriction from their website.

    If one is determined enough, one can use an IP proxy to get around this needless restriction.

    Cheers,
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     Sunday, November 16 2008 @ 12:08 PM EST


    screwdriver!

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     Sunday, November 16 2008 @ 01:38 PM EST
    and... umm.. fake snow.



    (most likely soap shavings from the looks of it).



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     Sunday, November 16 2008 @ 07:23 PM EST
    See I knew it XD

    I find that highly amusing that he's using a real ye olde screwdriver and calling it sonic. ^^

    Something about this story is fake, whether it's the setting, the place or Morrissey's Doctor himself it's hard to guess until we see it come Christmas time.

    Also, the name Rosita could be a nod to Rose too.

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     Sunday, November 16 2008 @ 07:43 PM EST
    Fantastic High-Res pic post Tin-Dog Podcast!!

    And absolutely brilliant call romana II!!!
    I had noticed that his screwdriver wasnt right but didnt think to look it it was a REAL screwdriver. lol. Great job!

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     Sunday, November 16 2008 @ 10:04 PM EST
    [Quote  by:  Louis] It probably has more to do with having it exclusively available at the BBC Children in Need site which unfortunately restricts the content by IP location. Again, this makes no sense for a charity fundraising cause to restrict it in this way as it only restricts the possible donations it can receive. The issue would be moot if they removed this location restriction from their website.

    So, you expect the BBC just to ignore protecting its properties just because it is using them to promote a charity appeal? The YouTube video was posted outside the Pudsey site and therefore was not being used as part of the appeal. So is what you are saying that it is OK to steal from a charity?!? That is what was restricting donations more than the BBC's region blocking, as UK viewers may have found that version before the Pudsey one and then not realize that it was part of the appeal.

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     Sunday, November 16 2008 @ 10:44 PM EST
    [Quote  by:  mad4plaid] well, if this is just The One Doctor (like the big finish story), then its all a set up by "The Doctor" and his companion, who are con artists. So, then the cyberman is probably part of the con, yes?



    I was just about to speculate that it could be like the Voyager episode with the fake Voyager crew of con-artists (Live Fast and Prosper, I think) when I read this post. I haven't listened to The One Doctor yet, but I guess now I have to. Big Grin

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     Sunday, November 16 2008 @ 11:09 PM EST
    [Quote  by:  Linquel]
    [Quote  by:  mad4plaid] well, if this is just The One Doctor (like the big finish story), then its all a set up by "The Doctor" and his companion, who are con artists. So, then the cyberman is probably part of the con, yes?



    I was just about to speculate that it could be like the Voyager episode with the fake Voyager crew of con-artists (Live Fast and Prosper, I think) when I read this post. I haven't listened to The One Doctor yet, but I guess now I have to. Big Grin


    The One Doctor is a pretty good story. One of my favorite parts of the story is the the impostor Doctor's Tardis groan.. made me laugh everytime I heard it.

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