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     Monday, December 29 2008 @ 12:52 PM EST
    Just want to comment that being in America and not being as technologically updated as some of you here, I have only seen short portions of "The Next Doctor", but those included most of the salient parts (beginning, end, ten doctors, etc.). What I saw looked great, and I agree that Christmas in other than modern day was a treat. And what is wrong with a giant Cybership in 19th century London? The reason we like Doctor Who is the fact that it mixes the "absurd" with the real world so frequently. And a Tereleptil android in 17th Heathrow or a Zygon Skarassen in 1970's Scotland is less "jarring"?

    "Time and tide melts the snowman."
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     Monday, December 29 2008 @ 04:02 PM EST
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    I was more remindered of Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, particularly since "The Valiant" was also nicked from it.



    Which in turn was nicked from the SHIELD helicarriers in the Marvel Universe Wink

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     Monday, December 29 2008 @ 04:37 PM EST
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    [Quote  by:  Doctor Whoovie]

    I was more remindered of Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, particularly since "The Valiant" was also nicked from it.



    Which in turn was nicked from the SHIELD helicarriers in the Marvel Universe Wink


    Which in turn was stolen from Captain Scalet

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     Monday, December 29 2008 @ 05:13 PM EST
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    [Quote  by:  Doctor Whoovie]

    I was more remindered of Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, particularly since "The Valiant" was also nicked from it.



    Which in turn was nicked from the SHIELD helicarriers in the Marvel Universe Wink


    Which in turn was stolen from Captain Scalet


    Actually, having just looked it up helicarriers were apparently introduced in 1965 while Captain Scarlet didn't begin until 1967. Wink

    Anyway without wishing to go miles off topic, perhaps Laputa in Gulliver's Travels was the original influence for all these flying base ideas? Big Grin

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     Monday, December 29 2008 @ 06:19 PM EST
    Just found myself reflecting on the christmas special this evening and considering the Cybermen are so logical, does it seem logical that they would have in their possesion a means of storing information that also DESTROYS them.

    actually the more I think about it the less it makes any sense, in effect the infospikes ( cant remember the correct term) acts as a slide projector so just projecting the data at the cybermen is enough to make their heads explode yet, there is a socket in their chest that allows them to absorb the whole lot without exploding.

    Therefore i think we have just found the cybermens weakness, no its not gold or radiation it is Slideshows ( actually if i have to sit through another slideshow of someones holiday snaps then my head may well explode)

    Quick everyone, up into your attics, you must have a box of slides up there someplace!

    wasn't totally convinced by the whole cyber king thing either, it seems a bit like those wind up radios, get some street urchins to wind it up for a few minutes and bam! giant robot destroying huge swathes of London.
    Wouldn't it have made more sense to have children disappearing for a few months or so?

    I hope the next christmas special will be slightly smaller in scale. I am kind of getting bored with having a HUGE christmas themed object threatening London.
    on the whole I thought the first half was ace but the whole robot thing really didn't help things really.




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     Monday, December 29 2008 @ 06:47 PM EST
    Wonderful nonsense, indeed! A steampunk, pantomime extravaganza complete with Ratking (Cyber King), Wicked Step-mother and all of it finally becoming Jack and the Beanstalk.
    Managed to avoid all reviews, spoilers and other people’s opinions of this and I for one loved it. The Next Doctor conceit, cleverly played and not strung out for too long. The Cyber King, a fabulous new addition to the Cyber mythos. All ten Doctors! Merry Christmas! Wonderful, glorious, silly nonsense!

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     Monday, December 29 2008 @ 06:54 PM EST
    [Quote  by:  Idiom]

    Wonderful nonsense, indeed!

    Wonderful, glorious, silly nonsense!


    Well I agree with these parts of your comments :-)

    Cheers, daveac

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     Tuesday, December 30 2008 @ 12:00 AM EST

    While I enjoyed the episode for the most part, I am sad that we did not get the rumored "self-referential" episode where the Doctor stumbles into a movie being made about his life.

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     Tuesday, December 30 2008 @ 09:55 AM EST
    [Quote  by:  DarthSkeptical]Oh, I think we recall literally why gold fouls up the earlier Cybermen. The question is why there are breathing systems at all. This illogical weakness is a part of why Cybermen are generally such problems. No one has sat down and thought them through. And this gold weakness totally proves it. They're replacing body parts to be stronger, but don't find a workaround for the respiratory system? One of the weakest aspects of the human design is the need to breathe, yet the Cybermen still do it?


    It seems to me that since Cybermen are still cyborgs, and not robots, you need a respiratory system to keep the living parts alive. When we say "breathe" we simply mean the way in which these hybrid human/machines take in oxygen to keep the biological parts alive.

    If they didn't have some way to move oxygen through the blood, the biological parts would decay and die.

    Cybermen might well be robots, then. But they aren't. Clearly they are part human, part machine, so they need some way to "breathe".

    Whatever it was that provided that mechanism was blockable by fine gold dust.

    But no, blocking it with just anything might not work. It's possible lead might. Perhaps the density and weight had something to do with it. The system may have been designed to filter almost anything - or more likely, was designed very cleverly to filter anything common they might come up against. Gold being fairly rare in most places, might not have been on the list of things they needed to worry about filtering.

    There are a buzillion ways to explain almost anything you want in a Science Fiction universe.

    I'm still just miffed that gold nuggets were used just as effectively in "Silver Nemesis"... that was stupid.

    Sean.

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     Tuesday, December 30 2008 @ 12:33 PM EST
    I have a question for everyone. Why was the title of this episode “The Next Doctor”? Was it to throw all the fanboys off? Or does Russell T want throw a big screwball for who will play the next Doctor? Here is a little speculation…

    What if the episode title is the most obvious hint to Morrissery being the next Doctor that it’s right in front of our faces? Just because he plays a human with the Doctor’s memories doesn’t mean that Tennant can't regenerate into him. This episode, in a way, throws off everyones speculation that Morrissery is now out of the running. As far as we know Jackson Lake may have made some kind of mental bond to the Doctor due to the infostamp (its scifi so work with me). Thoughts?

    P.S.- Tin Dog, after listening to the DWO Cast Christmas 2008 Special I really wish Trevor would have used you as a permanent fixture. All is well, at least I have three podcast to listen to instead of two...

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     Tuesday, December 30 2008 @ 01:57 PM EST
    Ok I'll send this thread off track.
    Does anyone else think it's not a coincidence that Jonas Quinn, the guy who plays Robin Hood, is leaving his hit show just at the same time that Doctor Who is being recast? He's young and seems to be a good actor. He wouldn't have been the dude I would have thrown out there, but hey.


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     Tuesday, December 30 2008 @ 02:20 PM EST
    Isnt it Jonas Armstrong on Robin Hood? I think Jonas Quinn is Stargate.

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     Tuesday, December 30 2008 @ 05:05 PM EST
    Doh!
    You know who I meant. Oops!

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     Tuesday, December 30 2008 @ 07:28 PM EST
    [Quote  by:  doogie448] Doh!
    You know who I meant. Oops!


    If they use anybody from Robin Hood it should be Richard Armitage

    Cheers, daveac

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     Thursday, January 01 2009 @ 05:08 AM EST
    [Quote  by:  seanhuxter] Cybermen might well be robots, then. But they aren't. Clearly they are part human, part machine, so they need some way to "breathe".

    Whatever it was that provided that mechanism was blockable by fine gold dust.

    But no, blocking it with just anything might not work. It's possible lead might. Perhaps the density and weight had something to do with it. The system may have been designed to filter almost anything - or more likely, was designed very cleverly to filter anything common they might come up against. Gold being fairly rare in most places, might not have been on the list of things they needed to worry about filtering.
    Yeah, well, the writers of TV Comic would disagree with you. Surely this is . . . The Nadir of the Cybermen:

    Apparently, those flowers were strong enough to kill Cybermats, too. Which is impressive, given that there's not that much organic about a Cybermat.

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