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Dangermouse
Registered: 12/01/05
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Fantastic episode - this is certainly one to scare the kids!!!
SPOILER ALERT:
A brilliant way to introduce (kind of) Torchwood. The speech by Queen Vic the first at the end about setting up an institution to protect against alien beings was truely inspired. What a fantastic way to officially introduce its creation.
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He's the strongest, he's the quickest, he's the best.....
"Yorkshire is a state of mind"
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Abersoch
Registered: 11/27/05
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| Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 04:07 PM EDT |
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| Yes, when I first heard mention of Torchwood at the beginning of the episode I began to wonder if it would become this season's Bad Wolf. |
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timeflight
Registered: 04/13/06
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| Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 04:13 PM EDT |
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That was excellent! Better than 'New Earth' I thought. Torchwood was explained nicely. I love the 'Dr James McCrimmon' bit at the start. My children were hiding behind cushions again - fantastic!!  |
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mpe
Registered: 04/10/06
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| Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 04:47 PM EDT |
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| [Quote by: timeflight] That was excellent! Better than 'New Earth' I thought. Torchwood was explained nicely. I love the 'Dr James McCrimmon' bit at the start. My children were hiding behind cushions again - fantastic!! |
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Apparently it also scored top marks with the BBC's official "scaryness panel".
There are also references to "Bad Wolf" from the last season.
As well a few nods to the classic story "Horror of Fang Rock" |
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Abersoch
Registered: 11/27/05
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| Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 06:14 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: mpe]
As well a few nods to the classic story "Horror of Fang Rock" |
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Where was the Fang Rock reference?
(  dunno why I just put that in white. It's not even a spoiler) |
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Dangermouse
Registered: 12/01/05
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| Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 06:32 PM EDT |
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Well the Werewolf had fangs and the episode rocked!  |
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He's the strongest, he's the quickest, he's the best.....
"Yorkshire is a state of mind"
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Louis
Registered: 01/01/04
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| Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 10:40 PM EDT |
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| [Quote by: timeflight] That was excellent! Better than 'New Earth' I thought. Torchwood was explained nicely. I love the 'Dr James McCrimmon' bit at the start. My children were hiding behind cushions again - fantastic!! |
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I love the James McCrimmon part... what a nice tie-in.
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MikeD
Registered: 01/19/06
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| Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 10:53 PM EDT |
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Btw, there's another "Tooth and Claw" thread going in the David Tennant Era Forum.
I thought the episode was excellent! I do feel though the the Torchwood information is too much too soon. There was a subtle reference there but the bit at the end was overkill IMO.
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"There are some corners of the universe which have bred the most terrible things. Things which act against everything we believe in. They must be fought."
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Louis
Registered: 01/01/04
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| Sunday, April 23 2006 @ 12:55 AM EDT |
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[Quote by: MikeD] Btw, there's another "Tooth and Claw" thread going in the David Tennant Era Forum.
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Thanks I saw that. I am guessing one was accidentally created in the Christopher Eccleston Era Forum, so I moved to the David Tennant one. Unfortunately, this particular forum software does not allow for merging the two together... so both threads should now be in the David Tennant Era one...
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Kryton
Registered: 04/11/06
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| Sunday, April 23 2006 @ 01:24 AM EDT |
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Just finished the episode best 1st and 2nd series episode ever IMO. The Doc and Rose really seem to be clicking well and I like the humor alot more the with Rose and CE. The Jamie McCrimmon reference was awesome, I loved that bit.I agree with MikeD though the Torchwood bits were not needed at all, and where is Unit in all this Torchwood stuff. Seems like the Queen is saying that Torchwood is for the unexplained stuff, I thought Unit was setup for the same type of thing.
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James
Registered: 07/21/05
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| Sunday, April 23 2006 @ 03:51 AM EDT |
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| Given that UNIT stands for United Nations Intellegence Taskforce, surely it must have been created after the formation of the UN in 1945? Torchwood obviously was created much earlier (1879 ish?) and only with the UK in mind according to good old Queen Vic. |
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Abersoch
Registered: 11/27/05
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| Sunday, April 23 2006 @ 06:46 AM EDT |
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| [Quote by: Kryton]Seems like the Queen is saying that Torchwood is for the unexplained stuff, I thought Unit was setup for the same type of thing. |
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| [Quote by: James] Given that UNIT stands for United Nations Intellegence Taskforce, surely it must have been created after the formation of the UN in 1945? Torchwood obviously was created much earlier (1879 ish?) and only with the UK in mind according to good old Queen Vic. |
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I also wonder if - from The Christmas Invasion - UNIT handles things in a very "Marquess of Queensbury Rules" kind of way, while Torchwood is not so bothered about following the rules. |
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netamisakima
Registered: 04/16/06
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| Sunday, April 23 2006 @ 09:00 AM EDT |
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Oh, I really enjoyed Tooth an Claw!
I an more intersted in Torchwood now than I was by the Christmas Invasion reference. The Doctor and UNIT have always gotten along well ("the stuff of legend"… and all that). But it seems as if the Doctor (especially his newest incarnation) will be enemy number one at Torchwood, or at least persona non grata. He *has* been banned from the Empire…
I'm quite looking forward to see how this develops. |
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daveac
Registered: 04/12/06
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| Sunday, April 23 2006 @ 09:05 AM EDT |
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[Quote by: Dangermouse]
about setting up an institution to protect against alien beings
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Including the Doctor it seems.
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netamisakima
Registered: 04/16/06
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| Sunday, April 23 2006 @ 09:22 AM EDT |
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| There has been a lot about this in the RTD Doctor Who. In Dalek, Rose mentions that the Doctor would be the best exhibit in Van Staten's collection, and Van Staten himself does investigate this possibility. Then there are the Prime Minister's comments during the Christmas Invasion. |
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