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tardisious
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I was wondering why Cassandra acted like possesing the Doctor's body was such a new physical experience. After all she was born a male and must have remembered some of what is was like to be male.
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tarashnat
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| Tuesday, May 09 2006 @ 10:15 AM EDT |
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I think this had to be not due to gender, but species. More parts could refer to organs that Gallifreyans have or have more of that humans do not have or have as many of... And one would suspect that Cassandra had some memory of hands and legs and other human parts, but the extra Timelordy bits threw her...
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seanhuxter
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| Tuesday, May 09 2006 @ 01:43 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: tardisious]
I was wondering why Cassandra acted like possesing the Doctor's body was such a new physical experience. After all she was born a male and must have remembered some of what is was like to be male.
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I would have thought it had to do with memory. 700+ operations must mean Cassandra is quite old now.
Don't forget when she jumped into Rose's body, it took her a while to get used to it as well... don't forget the line:
"It's like living inside a bouncy castle." meaning Rose's body has a lot of room in it, compared to a stretched trampouline of skin, and that she had forgotten just how bouncy a body could be.
It's all just the fact that she's lived as a stretched sheet for so long she's forgotten what it's like to have body mass.
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maxtd5def
Registered: 05/09/06
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| Thursday, May 11 2006 @ 06:35 PM EDT |
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Seems to me theres a continuity goof between Series 1 & 2 as well, or is there?
There's no problem in New Earth with Cassandra dying in the hands of her former self. One appears to touch the other.
But in Father's Day, Rose was clearly told "Don't touch the baby!" All hell breaks loose.
What's the explanation? The Cassandras didn't touch? Unlikely. That Chip's Cassandra had a different body, or DNA? Maybe. That the technobabble thing Cassandra used to originally effect the jump didn't transfer something? Possible.
It's just odd when the emphasis with Cassandra was on the mind, the form was irrelevant.
Thoughts anyone?
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Abersoch
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| Thursday, May 11 2006 @ 06:57 PM EDT |
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Well the only explanation that comes to mind is that Cassandra was meant to die in her own arms and that it was an event that had already happened to her earlier in her life - when she met the person who last told her she was beautiful. That would also answer why she suddenly seemed to realise that it was time to die - because she remembered that it had already happened but realised just what that memory now meant. Kind of makes that bit all the more poignant.
Whereas Rose had not had a situation where she had appeared in her own past and affected her life. That whole scenario came about because she rescued her father so everything that followed that was not meant to have happened because (according to the first version of the story we see being told at the beginning of the episode) there was no-one to be with her father when he died. By the end of the episode that story had slightly changed to reflect Rose's involvement. |
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| Thursday, May 11 2006 @ 08:26 PM EDT |
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| Just an observation: I think it's curious that the Christmas Invasion ended with the Doctor stating in no uncertain terms "No Second Chances" -- and the very next episode could very well be summed up as Cassandra's Second Chance... |
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hdutch007
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| Thursday, May 11 2006 @ 08:28 PM EDT |
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I've learned that if I question continuity on these things too much, you can bleed from the ears. The writers don't always have continuity at the forefront of their mind and are sometimes willing to overlook or even forget the way something "should be."
Especially in the genre of sci-fi, and even more so with time travel and multiple trips in time, it's VERY easy to get lost. So most of the time, unless it's glaringly obvious, I just sit back and enjoy the ride. |
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Louis
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| Thursday, May 11 2006 @ 10:21 PM EDT |
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I believe the Doctor stated in Father's Day that because of the wound in time, things were a bit more sensitive at that time so that made for extra caution to be used not to have Rose touch the baby...
As already stated, Chip was a different person that Cassandra was only inhabiting at that time.
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seanhuxter
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| Thursday, May 11 2006 @ 11:22 PM EDT |
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| [Quote by: That Neil Guy] Just an observation: I think it's curious that the Christmas Invasion ended with the Doctor stating in no uncertain terms "No Second Chances" -- and the very next episode could very well be summed up as Cassandra's Second Chance... |
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I took it that he wasn't giving Cassandra a second chance. She was dying, and there was no hope to stop it.
All he did was allow her to die in a way that he thought showed some compassion.
He may not believe in second chances, but he doesn't have to be cruel about it.
Honestly, I thought Cassandra was going to loop! I thought the Chip/Cassandra was going to breathe into Cassandra, giving her a new home - herself.
But that was a heck of a scene. The one thing I would have asked, if I was the director, was for the still human Cassandra to get a little more hysterical, more desperate, more pleading, and to see the rest of the crowd just stand there doing nothing. "Call an ambulance!" with real tears... I mean the scene showed that Cassandra once had real compassion, and this would have made it a little more obvious that before the operations she was truly human.
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