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     Friday, June 23 2006 @ 02:02 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Linquel] On a whim, I tried listening to the Whocast podcast. I didn't like it as much as Podshock. Anyway, they reviewed L&M and bashed it mercilessly. I don't understand why it's so hated.


    I gotta give The Whocast some props b/c it popped my podcast cherry. I mainly like it to here Paul Wilson's episode reviews and those of his mate, that older sounding guy. He is not one to mince words and often times he cracks me up, esp. when he really, really doesn't like an episode, i.e. "Love and Monsters." And also, from the promo I heard on there, it led me here to podshock so I can't complain. BTW, that original Podshock promo is very stale and frankly horrible. But it was good enough to perk my curiosity and I guess the rest is history.


    Neutral

    Esco, "The Bachelor" has regenerated into Bullitt33!!!!
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     Friday, June 23 2006 @ 02:20 AM EDT
    Look I actually pressed reply not New Topic...I'm getting smarter...

    Anyone I have been pretty disapointed with this season overall...the look and feel of the episodes are awesome, Tennant I like better than Eccleston, Piper's great...the stories just leave me unsatisfied. Maybe I am expecting too much...

    I do think that if most of the episodes show as much vim and vigor as this one the season would be a whole lot better. Maybe since it was soo different that is why I liked it sooooo much.

    Mosh

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     Friday, June 23 2006 @ 02:26 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Louis]

    Eek! I am surprised by how many people have expressed how much they liked this episode. I wish I could, but I can't.


    Cheers,
    Louis



    I too must 2nd that emotion.

    I must say that I am also flabbergasted Eek!

    At least it looks like we got the 2006 edition of the "Children in Need" special out of the way already. Just why in the world Russell T. would choose to place it here, smack-dab in the middle of the season is way beyond me Question Does anyone know for sure if this episode actually counts as canon? I sure hope not / don't think so. The Idiot's Lantern was questionable enough for me. No reason in the world to top that dissapointment for me. But alas they succeeded.

    I better be hearing the Podshock-Jox railing this ep. on the relevant 'cast.

    G'Damn it, and next weeks ep. don't look so promising either.

    Shite-Burger,



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    Esco, "The Bachelor" has regenerated into Bullitt33!!!!
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     Friday, June 23 2006 @ 03:00 PM EDT
    Did anyone else think Elton's line
    "I even got a bit of a love life"
    at the end was a bit inappropriate?
    Especially with his girlfriends tile/head sitting on his lap?

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     Friday, June 23 2006 @ 04:41 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  tardisious] Did anyone else think Elton's line
    "I even got a bit of a love life"
    at the end was a bit inappropriate?
    Especially with his girlfriends tile/head sitting on his lap?

    I think everyone's shocked that one got by the censors...

    But if you watch carefully, and realize that the only thing we can take as real are the bits of Elton speaking on camera we see that we only see Ursula's face through Elton's eyes, like everything else that's not on-camera.

    It could be a chalk drawing on the slab for all we know. We can't take as real anything Elton thinks he's seeing.

    Sean.

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     Friday, June 23 2006 @ 04:44 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  tardisious] Did anyone else think Elton's line
    "I even got a bit of a love life"
    at the end was a bit inappropriate?
    Especially with his girlfriends tile/head sitting on his lap?

    To quote Monty Python and the Meaning of Life, "A kiss boy, what's wrong with a kiss?" For a throwaway line, this is getting way too much attention. Still, it shows how strong Doctor Who is, that it can afford to create an episode that RTD knew would divide the fans.
    To all of those now saying that they no longer trust RTD, all I can say is "For Shame!". Do you REALLY want to go back to the dark days of 1989? One tongue-in-cheek episode and half of the fanboys are foaming at the mouth. I like the discourse, I like to read vitriolic opinions, it shows how health the programme is, but without Lord Russell of Swansea (it can only be a matter of time) we wouldn't have had any of the fantastic episodes we've enjoyed. Give the guy a break.(In a mood, cat died two days ago - hit and run)

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     Friday, June 23 2006 @ 07:20 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  The Bachelor] ... BTW, that original Podshock promo is very stale and frankly horrible. But it was good enough to perk my curiosity and I guess the rest is history.


    Neutral


    I think I can speak on behalf of Ken and James on this, but we feel the same way about the promo. I personally cringe when I hear it. We did work on a new promo several times since then, but none them ever materialized (the recording was never completed for one reason or another). I think this summer, we will have to put our collected feet down and get a new completed.

    Cheers,
    Louis

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     Friday, June 23 2006 @ 11:14 PM EDT
    I have watched this episode a second and third time and each time I find myself enjoying it a bit more. From the first viewing I have appreciated the comedic elements, but it still seemed wrong for a standard Doctor Who episode.

    However, hearing myself saying that started making me feel like a 35 year old stick in the mud, who might end up saying things like, "But we've always done it this way. Why start changing things now?"

    As I am still too young to become a stick in the mud, I've come to the conclusion that I CAN accept this episode as a 2.5 or 3 out of 5, just as long as things don't get out of hand and head down this path forever.

    I am still a bit skeptical about tomorrow's episode, but I'm hoping for the best.

    Cheers,

    Shoggoth

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     Monday, July 03 2006 @ 04:37 PM EDT
    I know everyone has thrown in their 2 cents on this one already but listening to Podshock 45 and reading most (but not every single page) of this gigantic thread - I loved this episode!

    This isn't a particularly academic argument but I have to say I nearly fell out of my chair when they started singing Melanie Safka's "I've got a brand new pair of rollerskates" - (hey that's my song! who's been spying on me?) and the Ikea furniture/Dalahäst that makes an appearance - even the chase scene in the beginning shows us that The Doctor and Rose are having adventures while we're not with them. And I LOVED that they kept their glasses after they'd been absorbed. I mean, why not?

    The whole episode had me grinning from ear to ear. And for the love-life comment - you pervy people! They coulda been talking about kissing Wink

    I'm imagining future Doctor Who conventions with pins and t-shirts you could wear that say "loved it" or "hated it" Laughing Out Loud

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     Monday, July 03 2006 @ 04:59 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Magpie] - even the chase scene in the beginning shows us that The Doctor and Rose are having adventures while we're not with them.


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    Yes and at the very start of 'Army of Ghosts' Rose talks about places and things she's seen whilst with the Doctor and some of these are 'new' to us.

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     Thursday, July 06 2006 @ 09:11 AM EDT
    I'm late to this episode, as I'm playing catch up. But, I must say...

    I loved it.

    ALOT.

    no real complaints. it worked for me, I get what RTD was going for, and I appreciate his brand of bizarre humor in the story. Nothing seemed inappropriate, crude, overly goofy, or out of place. It very much reminded me of the X-Files episodes "Jose Chung's From Outer Space" and "Bad Blood." Maybe accepting those years ago helped my taste with this one.

    Heath Holland
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     Friday, July 21 2006 @ 02:46 PM EDT
    Just wondering if anyone else noticed the strong similarity of this episode to "A View From the Gallery" from season 5 of Babylon 5? It, too, was an episode from the point-of-view of an "outsider" character.

    Felt lukewarm about that one, too.

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     Friday, July 21 2006 @ 03:54 PM EDT

    What I don't understand is that when we had an overt Scooby Doo reference in the dialog of an episode, it is ignored (Age of Steel), but when we have a classic comedy corridor chase sequence, it is referred to as "Scooby Doo". Now those funny corridor chase gags date back to the silent film era, and this is what those sequences are a hommage to in both Scooby Doo and Doctor Who and many others... So Age of Steel more deserves the label of a Scooby Doo episode than Love & Monsters as it has more identifiable "Scooby Doo" elements.

    Taras

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     Friday, July 21 2006 @ 06:49 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  tarashnat]
    What I don't understand is that when we had an overt Scooby Doo reference in the dialog of an episode, it is ignored (Age of Steel), but when we have a classic comedy corridor chase sequence, it is referred to as "Scooby Doo". Now those funny corridor chase gags date back to the silent film era, and this is what those sequences are a hommage to in both Scooby Doo and Doctor Who and many others... So Age of Steel more deserves the label of a Scooby Doo episode than Love & Monsters as it has more identifiable "Scooby Doo" elements.

    Taras


    It goes far beyond any corridor sequence... the reason why I find it so easy to label the whole episode as "Scoobo Who" is because it has all the sensibility of a Saturday morning cartoon... cartoon science, cartoon believability, cartoon characters, etc. All it needed were some sugar-coated cereal TV adverts sprinkled throughout the episode to make it complete.

    Cheers,
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     Friday, July 21 2006 @ 07:01 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  seanhuxter]
    [Quote  by:  tardisious] Did anyone else think Elton's line
    "I even got a bit of a love life"
    at the end was a bit inappropriate?
    Especially with his girlfriends tile/head sitting on his lap?

    I think everyone's shocked that one got by the censors...

    But if you watch carefully, and realize that the only thing we can take as real are the bits of Elton speaking on camera we see that we only see Ursula's face through Elton's eyes, like everything else that's not on-camera.

    It could be a chalk drawing on the slab for all we know. We can't take as real anything Elton thinks he's seeing.

    Sean.


    Britain doesn't really have censors Sean and television in the uk is much more liberal than in the U.S.

    I remember about 10 years ago Nutragena (I think it was) were running an ad that showed a naked woman showering on a beach with their product and the independant Televison Authority reported that they only received 4 complaints about a nipple being shown.

    After 7 p.m is reguarded as a time that teenagers could be watching and 9 p.m. (The Watershed) is considered a time for adults and nudity can be shown.

    I think this scene was considered inocuous enough that anyone under teen age would probably not understand the joke. The only time I remember a fuss about a programme after 7 p.m. was during a soap opera popular with teenagers where there was a lot of reference to suicide and the fuss was because it could influence teenagers to believe suicide was cool

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