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     Monday, July 03 2006 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    No the 3D glasses are just another clear case of me being spied on by the entire Doctor Who team, I've carried a pair of those around in my purse for years, seriously! along with one of those red mylar fortune-telling fish.

    If Worzel Gummidge and the Third Doctor had a fist fight - who would win?
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     Monday, July 03 2006 @ 11:17 PM EDT
    Yeah, I always have about a dozen pairs of 3D red/blue glasses by my computer.

    I do 3D for a hobby, and for a living.

    There's even a Doctor Who connection.

    But to me, the whole 3D glasses thing was just dumb. We've never seen him pull those out before, right? Ever? In the whole series? Why now? I have to wonder what RTD has up his sleeve here...

    Going to be an interesting week of waiting.

    Sean.

    One solid hope is worth a cartload of uncertainties.
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     Monday, July 03 2006 @ 11:27 PM EDT
    I win Sean, I don't do 3D for a hobby or for a living - I keep them with me for the same reason the Doctor Does - JUST IN CASE. Don't get caught without a pair - you never know when a voidship will appearWink

    Wait, it's clear to me now - he has to wear the glasses or else his eyes would just bug right out of his head. Bless Mr. Tennant, he's dreamy but he's definately got some giant eyeballs.

    If Worzel Gummidge and the Third Doctor had a fist fight - who would win?
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     Tuesday, July 04 2006 @ 12:12 AM EDT
    I think that the 3d glasses are just a sign of the Doctors eccentricity which seems to have been steadily growing throughout this series

    Forget the shooty dog thing!
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     Tuesday, July 04 2006 @ 12:18 AM EDT
    Huh? The Doctor is eccentric??? Ruffled shirts, long scarves, celery sticks, garish jackets and 3d glasses aren't the norm? Boy does my wardrobe need an overhall Big Grin

    If Worzel Gummidge and the Third Doctor had a fist fight - who would win?
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     Tuesday, July 04 2006 @ 12:34 AM EDT
    With all the talk about Cybermen and Daleks, there's just a few things I'm surprised no one has mentioned yet:

    The Doctor singing the theme to Ghostbusters...

    The existance (in the Who-verse) of a show about ghosts (Ghos*censored*ch=Ghosthunters). Is this a jib at the Sci-Fi channel...

    Jackie has the "every channel on the planet" cable package (unless Japanese TV is common in Britain.) That or the Doctor did some more jigger-pokery to her remote...


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     Tuesday, July 04 2006 @ 04:44 AM EDT
    Well I'm so glad that the doctor went through all that trouble destroying his homeworld and annihilating his entire race (supposedly the most powerful in the universe). I'm sure it was so worth it just to have the Daleks show up yet again and again. Nice. Rolling Eyes

    And actually, I too could do w/o the Daleks showing up again already. I mean, I don't necessarily dislike the pepperpots, but Cybermen alone is enough for me for now.

    And I hope those aren't some of the same sets for Torchwood as we'll be seeing in the actual series. (Wait a second, doesn't it take place in Cardiff?) I thought the Torchwood interior looked kind of cheap, like a low-budget version of SD6 or the secret, secret CIA headquartersin the show Alias.

    And btw, for whatever reason, I never really hated or disliked Mickey as much as everyone else always has.

    Assuming Rose and her whole family goes away from the series after the next episode, does this mean we have to get reintroduced to a whole new family set or group of linked characters again in season 3? Earth-based as well? And by the precedent set by Rose having such a fleshed out character, does this mean that every companion to follow Rose will also have such a delveloped backstory? I for one will be glad to be finally done with this spin-off show Rose Who. I kind of like the Doctor being more of the center of attention.

    And that whole Ghostbusters thing got me a little worried. I started having flashbacks of Love & Monsters. The Doctor looked retarded and Rose sounded ridiculous. Looked like a deleted scene to me.


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     Tuesday, July 04 2006 @ 08:40 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  The Bachelor] Well I'm so glad that the doctor went through all that trouble destroying his homeworld and annihilating his entire race (supposedly the most powerful in the universe). I'm sure it was so worth it just to have the Daleks show up yet again and again. Nice. Rolling Eyes


    Methinks we have not seen the last of the Gallifreyans...

    [Quote  by:  The Bachelor] And btw, for whatever reason, I never really hated or disliked Mickey as much as everyone else always has.


    Never hated him, but he was quite a whiney boy before meeting Ricky and seeing "himself" in a whole new light.

    [Quote  by:  The Bachelor]Assuming Rose and her whole family goes away from the series after the next episode, does this mean we have to get reintroduced to a whole new family set or group of linked characters again in season 3? Earth-based as well? And by the precedent set by Rose having such a fleshed out charater, does this mean that every companion to follow Rose will also have such a delveloped backstory? I for one will be glad to be finally done with this spin-off show Rose Who. I kind of like the Doctor being more of the center of attention.


    The Doctor has always been the constant in the show, and Rose certainly isn't the typical TV companion we are used to, but the show has always been about both the Doctor and his companions. The other TARDIS passengers are certainly more than animated props (well, other than K9 and Kamelion, perhaps...). Did you feel the same way about Jo or Sarah Jane or Ace?

    [Quote  by:  The Bachelor]And that whole Ghostbusters thing got me a little worried. I started having flashbacks of Love & Monsters. The Doctor looked retarded and Rose sounded ridiculous. Looked like a deleted scene to me.

    The "B"


    Using the word "retarded" as an insult really isn't that appropriate.

    Would you delete scenes of the Second Doctor playing his recorder or cross-dressing? Scenes of the Fourth Doctor offering jelly babies? Would you CGI out the celery stick worn on the Fifth Doctor's lapel for three years? The Doctor's whimsical nature has been more or less a fixture for the entire run of the series, expressing itself moreso in some incarnations than others. The problem with "Love and Monsters" wasn't the Doctor acting silly. It was of the scriptwriter watching a little too much Benny Hill before sitting down to write. Wink

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     Tuesday, July 04 2006 @ 08:56 AM EDT
    I've been pondering this ep since I saw it Saturday night.

    I'm wondering if Torchwood gets the better of the Doctor, possibly with the help of Jackie. They force him to leave without Rose, or tell him that she is dead.

    Torchwood would also tell Rose that the Doctor died, leaving them both to believe the other is gone. Or Jackie keeps Rose away from the Doctor until after he leaves, and then tells her he's dead. I'm taking my cues off of that conversation about "settling down" Rose has with Jackie early on in the ep, for the most part.

    Now, since RTD decided to make a love story between the both of them the main undercurrent of this series (totally going against classic Who IMHO) Rose could very well believe that she "died" when she heard the news that the Doctor is gone for good. Heck, she's pouted enough over it this past season - reminding me of my 3 year old nephew, in fact.


    Mickey does seem to have grown up quite a bit - I wonder if he's grown away from Rose. Wouldn't that just stick in her craw? It certainly seems, from the little screen time in Army of Ghosts, that he's gotten a lot more self-assured and confident (which I will admit was evident earlier in the series.) Rose is a very strong-willed and determind young woman (I should know, I'm one myself - well, maybe not the young part...) and I don't think that Mickey would go back to their relationship in the submissive role he appeared to have back in the 2005 series.

    So I think Rose is going to be left on Earth to start completely over.

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     Tuesday, July 04 2006 @ 09:29 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  The Bachelor] ...
    And I hope those aren't some of the same sets for Torchwood as we'll be seeing in the actual series. (Wait a second, doesn't it take place in Cardiff?) I thought the Torchwood interior looked kind of cheap, like a low-budget version of SD6 or the secret, secret CIA headquartersin the show Alias.

    ...


    No I don't think those will be the same sets. As you said, the Torchwood we see in the Torchwood series will be different as it is based in Cardiff (on the rift). In the most recent Doctor Who: Confidential (Welcome to Torchwood) they show the new sets under construction as John Barrowman gets a sneak preview of them before shooting begins.

    From the comments that RTD made during the commentaries, I think he may had been a bit disappointed on how the Torchwood sets looked on screen in the final product... I believe he felt they looked too small or not as big when you see them in the episode.

    There may be elements from this episode that might be used in part in the new Torchwood series. For example, the heavy door sealing the room with the void ship is the same heavy door we saw in the episode Dalek where the Dalek was maintained as a prisoner. They simply reused the same prop. So that door may make its way to the Torchwood series now perhaps... Otherwise I suspect the sets in the new series to be completely different from what we see here in Torchwood Tower.

    Cheers,
    Louis

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     Tuesday, July 04 2006 @ 11:41 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  joereform]
    [Quote  by:  The Bachelor]And that whole Ghostbusters thing got me a little worried. I started having flashbacks of Love & Monsters. The Doctor looked retarded and Rose sounded ridiculous. Looked like a deleted scene to me.

    The "B"


    Using the word "retarded" as an insult really isn't that appropriate.

    --Joe


    It wasn't an insult at all. Only a description. I love David Tennent and the 10th Doctor (1-9 as well), I really do! Big Grin
    I wasn't trying to demean anyone, honestly.

    But please, by all means, send all the dissenting mail my way.


    The "B"

    Esco, "The Bachelor" has regenerated into Bullitt33!!!!
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     Tuesday, July 04 2006 @ 04:24 PM EDT
    Laughing Out Loud Laughing Out Loud THIS IS MY CRACKPOT THEORY! Laughing Out Loud Laughing Out Loud
    Ok get this...... there have been loads of music references throughout series 2, so get this, the Doctor will defeat the Cybermen by getting ontop of the torchwood building, with Yvonne Hartman on guitar, and start singing "'Cos you are gold! Always believe in your soul!" "you've got the power to know etc..etc.." and all the cybermen will be destroyed!!!!! REMEMBER: IF IT ENDS UP LIKE THIS - YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

    "Now Brigadeer, have I ever led you astray?" "On many ocassions!" "Ah.. well... this will be the exception!"
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     Tuesday, July 04 2006 @ 06:53 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  joereform]
    [Quote  by:  daveac]
    snip lots of good points -


    Thanks.

    I found one more exchange in the episode very interesting. The Doctor tells Yvonne that a 21st-century earth cannot be allowed to have the alien weaponry that Torchwood possesses. Her response basically can be summed up as "Says who?"

    In a universe apparently down to only one Time Lord, she makes a valid point...

    --Joe!


    As the new improved Mickey would say - sometimes the Doctor gets it wrong.

    The American military already have a laser weapon which is proven working from a ground based platform and they aren't that far off using it mounted in a aircraft, so technically speaking the human race is already using particle based weapons. The USA and Russia also aren't that far off rolling out weapons based around microwaves, which technically is a particle weapons also so that makes it we have at least 2 weapons platforms that are close to in use both based in particle technology... sometimes the Doctor gets it wrong because what he said we cannot have we've already created ourselves.

    You are rogue elements... You are incompatible... You will be... Deleted!
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     Tuesday, July 04 2006 @ 08:28 PM EDT
    Sometimes the Doctor gets it wrong and sometimes others do Big Grin

    True; The U.S. has had a laser tank since the 1960;s and true Microwave (and other sci-fi) weapons were part of the various S.D.I. projects. But we didn't see the laser tanks rolled out during "Shock and Awe" did we?

    There are inherent problems with these weapons.

    In the case of the Laser Tank it requires such a massive power supply that to only way of using it is to hook it up to a power station (Batterea anyone?) and for that reason we are unlikely to see any of these weapons for quite a while. How long? I would guestimate at least 20 years after we master "cold fusion tecnology" the current holy grail. Along with that we also need to nail down "Super Conductors."

    So the Doctor is actually right. In this period of the 21st Century; when presented with a hand held particle beam weapon, we should not have it!

    Forget the shooty dog thing!
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     Wednesday, July 05 2006 @ 08:46 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  gwensdad2003] Jackie has the "every channel on the planet" cable package (unless Japanese TV is common in Britain.) That or the Doctor did some more jigger-pokery to her remote...


    the fact that she had every channel on the planet didn't concern me. What I couldn't help wondering as I watched that scene was, "why doesn't the Tardis translate the TV shows?" Granted, we wouldn't have gotten the "universal" aspect of the ghost shift if it had, but it still seemed strange to me.

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