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mad4plaid
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| [Quote by: Linquel] p.s. Sorry about hijacking this Life on Mars discussion. To try bringing it back on topic, can I just say how creepy that little girl with the clown doll that comes off the "off the air" picture on the TV? |
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Yes, you can say how creepy she was, as she was EXTREMELY creepy. But as I think about it, was it her or the clown doll? Clowns give me the willies. But, the little girl definitely seems a bit demonic. |
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jeffreysg
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| Tuesday, October 10 2006 @ 02:29 PM EDT |
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Bringing this back on topic myself,
yes the girl and the doll are very creepy. I guess we'll get the answer to what's going on during the second series. I'm sad to see it's only going two seasons. I have to admit though, the first season ended somewhat anti-climatic for me. I was expecting something bigger. |
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Louis
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| Tuesday, October 10 2006 @ 11:51 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: MikeD] | [Quote by: Louis]Not to mention the countless 'reality' shows of late... |
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The term "Reality TV" is not only a misnomer but it is far too generic as it covers so many different kinds of shows. There are series that this statement is true for but for many other big name reality shows it is not the case.
"Big Brother" is originally Dutch not British, "Survivor" started out in Sweden and was adapted for the US and then there was a UK version based on the American version. "The Mole" originated in Belgium. "Dragons Den" started in Japan.
There are many other examples that both support and go against this but it is not fair to say that countless relaity shows are US version of UK originals.
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Yeah, I didn't mean to paint a picture that all "reality" shows or the majority of them originated in the UK, but that there have been many (or as I originally put it, "countless")... I was thinking more along the lines of Changing Rooms which was adapted to America and renamed Trading Places, and ironically American Idol is an American version of the UK's Pop Idol television show. I am sure there are plenty of others, but by no means did I want to imply all or most of them originated in the UK.
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Louis
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| Tuesday, October 10 2006 @ 11:58 PM EDT |
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Oh, we forgot to mention the British series, Coupling by Steven Moffat (known to most of us for writing celebrated Doctor Who episodes The Empty Child, The Doctor Dances, and The Girl in the Fireplace) had an American version as well in 2003.
Now getting back to Life on Mars, is there any word on a region 1 DVD release yet for the first series?
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merlin_mccarley
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| Wednesday, October 11 2006 @ 12:24 AM EDT |
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Saw episode 1 on BBC America, and "retrevied" it at that point. A very good series with a good running mystery. They mentioned Doctor who in one of the later episodes, and who knows mabey they can have a stand in for Jon Pertwee in a tie in (the right Doctor for the right time). If you have not seen it (unedited) you need to.
Astrologer extraordinary. Seer to Princes and Emperors. The future foretold, the past explained, the present...apologised for. |
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Louis
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| Wednesday, October 11 2006 @ 05:55 PM EDT |
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Digital Spy is also reporting that the second series of Life on Mars will be the last, as it will conclude itself. That is another difference compared to television in the US... I can't think any series produced in the US that would intentionally conclude itself after only two seasons and end, outside of mini-series perhaps. RTD did the same thing with the original Queer as Folk... and brought it to an end after series 2. While the American version went, I believe five seasons before they decided to finally put a nail in it.
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Linquel
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| Wednesday, October 11 2006 @ 07:04 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: Louis]
That is another difference compared to television in the US... I can't think any series produced in the US that would intentionally conclude itself after only two seasons and end, outside of mini-series perhaps. |
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I was thinking the same thing when I saw that news item that they were ending it after two seasons. I suspect a lot of is that if a show is doing well, they really try to get at least three or four seasons out of it so they can sell it for local station syndication. When a syndicated show is being shown five days a week, you have to have a large enough pool of episodes. |
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I'm going "Full Circle" and putting my avatar back to what it was when I first joined. :)
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BadWolf
Registered: 03/25/06
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| Wednesday, October 11 2006 @ 07:35 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: Louis]
Digital Spy is also reporting that the second series of Life on Mars will be the last, as it will conclude itself. That is another difference compared to television in the US... I can't think any series produced in the US that would intentionally conclude itself after only two seasons and end, outside of mini-series perhaps. RTD did the same thing with the original Queer as Folk... and brought it to an end after series 2. While the American version went, I believe five seasons before they decided to finally put a nail in it.
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The only American series that I can remember that self terminated after a shorter than usual time was Babylon 5 which set itself a 5 year time schedule. The creator came out at the beginning and said that the story was designed to have a start; middle and end. |
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Forget the shooty dog thing!
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hdutch007
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| Wednesday, October 11 2006 @ 09:04 PM EDT |
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| It's a decision that should be commended. When the story is up, end it. I just wish American shows like Lost would follow this pattern. |
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Louis
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| Wednesday, October 11 2006 @ 11:25 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: BadWolf]
The only American series that I can remember that self terminated after a shorter than usual time was Babylon 5 which set itself a 5 year time schedule. The creator came out at the beginning and said that the story was designed to have a start; middle and end. |
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Yes, Babylon 5 did go through my head when I posted my previous message... but that was five years... more than double the amount of time of just two years (or two seasons/series). I can't think of any US series that were successful in their initial run yet still decided to conclude it on their own with two seasons or less... outside of mini-series of course or barring the death of a lead actor perhaps.
As Linquel pointed out, there's always the goal of getting enough episodes in the can to further sell the series via syndication.
I have a feeling any television developer that went to a US network and pitched a series saying that whether it is successful or not, we only plan on doing only two seasons would be laughed right outside of the door.
So I am pleased that at least in the UK they can naturally conclude a story without having to prolong and stretch it out as far as the ratings will hold.
Now I am pondering what are the plans for the remake of The Prisoner television series with Christopher Eccleston? The original series wrapped up at the end of the first series... if memory recalls, it had 17 episodes in total and concluded itself. Are they planning to do the same with the new series? Or will it go on until CE decides to move on? Which may be only one series any way 
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jeffreysg
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| Thursday, October 12 2006 @ 10:57 AM EDT |
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| On the one hand, I think the UK version of the Office could have gone longer, but that also ended after two series. Now Red Dwarf I think was on longer than it should have, even though I enjoyed many of the later episodes. |
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seanhuxter
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| Thursday, October 12 2006 @ 11:56 AM EDT |
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Sometimes a UK show can be re-created in the US with resounding success... As already pointed out "Three's Company" was huge, but I personally didn't like it much. I preferred "Man About the House" myself.
Another huge one is "The Office" which is taking the world by storm on both sides of the Atlantic with their own versions.
On the other hand, we tried "Coupling" here in the US to quick failure, as well as "Cracker" and any number of others that just didn't fly.
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Doctor Whoovie
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| Thursday, October 12 2006 @ 12:46 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: seanhuxter] Sometimes a UK show can be re-created in the US with resounding success...
On the other hand, we tried "Coupling" here in the US to quick failure, as well as "Cracker" and any number of others that just didn't fly.
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I guess they tried a TV programme called "Doctor Who" in the US, which had been a popular British show and it just didn't work  |
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daveac
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| Sunday, October 15 2006 @ 02:51 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: Louis]
Now I am pondering what are the plans for the remake of The Prisoner television series with Christopher Eccleston? The original series wrapped up at the end of the first series... if memory recalls, it had 17 episodes in total and concluded itself. Are they planning to do the same with the new series? Or will it go on until CE decides to move on? Which may be only one series any way
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Neil: The lead hasn't been confirmed yet (although it is likely to be Eccleston). The last I heard the series was about to go to filming for an expected premiere in the first half of next year. It's six episodes at £1 million an episode.
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Louis
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| Sunday, October 15 2006 @ 07:00 PM EDT |
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Thanks for the quote and link... I wonder if that is supposed to be read as six episodes in total, or only six episode for the first series, with perhaps it continuing into another series to follow?
If it does conclude itself after six episodes, than it will be far shorter than the original, only a third as long... That would be surprising indeed.
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