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Dangermouse

Registered: 12/01/05
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Tuesday, January 10 2006 @ 06:10 AM EST |
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I am a big Godzilla fan (not the Hollywood version which Godzilla fans call "Gino" - Godzilla in name only).
The original 1950's film (Gojira) has a strong anti-nuclear message to it. The US edited 40 minutes out of the film and added twenty minutes of their own making an American reporter (called Steve Martin) the central character. The American version removed any anti-nuclear weapons message as they considered it anti-war. The film was the most expensive Japanese film ever when it was released, and you can buy the original on DVD. I've got a set with both the original Japanese film, and the Hollywood edit.
It suffered since with Godzilla films that don't live up to the standard of the first - but I've recently watched the latest films (Godzilla: Final Wars and some of the 2001 series) and they are excellent sci-fi films.
Some of the subtitling is a bit dodgy though - especially when they call Godzilla a "mobster" instead of "monster"!!! - I expected him to appear wearing a sharp italian suit and a machine gun!
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seanhuxter

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Tuesday, January 10 2006 @ 07:18 AM EST |
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I thought the topic was "under-rated" science fiction films.
Alien and Terminator are constantly rated in the top 10 or even top 5 of science fiction films.
Good choices with "Black Hole", but "Tron" frequently is rated high.
Mine are:
"The Last Starfighter" - a fun romp through the galaxy with cutting edge CGI for the time, and a great premise - recruiting pilots using a video game
"Solaris" - The Clooney one or the original Romanian one - both excellent science fiction. I watched both a while back, and the Clooney version, though a remake, is every bit as good as the original, and adds an interesting twist. I also read the book, and they were very good adaptations.
"The Iron Giant" - the best film in a year of amazing films was animated! And stands up. Speaking of "Superman"!
"Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey" - a sequel to the smash comedy success, this one had some good points, though was a weaker film. "I made the wigs." My wife and I enjoyed it thoroughly.
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Dangermouse

Registered: 12/01/05
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Tuesday, January 10 2006 @ 07:28 AM EST |
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| 2001 is a well celebrated film, the sequel "2010: The Year we make contact" is also a fantastic Sci-Fi film, but one that gets very little mention. |
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Louis

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Wednesday, January 11 2006 @ 03:46 AM EST |
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| [Quote by: Dangermouse] 2001 is a well celebrated film, the sequel "2010: The Year we make contact" is also a fantastic Sci-Fi film, but one that gets very little mention. |
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I like 2010, but because of the events that took place after the film was made, it now seems a bit dated with the Soviet Union and cold war material. But a good choice nonetheless.
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tarashnat


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Wednesday, January 11 2006 @ 11:54 AM EST |
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Silent Running (1972): Douglas Trumbull's directorial debut with some help from his school buddy John Dykstra. A moral dilemma and three cute robots (Louie, Hewy and Dewy).
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tarashnat


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Wednesday, January 11 2006 @ 12:07 PM EST |
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And let us not forget John Carpenter's Dark Star (1974). What happens when you've been on a twenty year mission and your smart bomb thinks it's smarter than you?
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Mohan

Registered: 01/01/06
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Wednesday, January 11 2006 @ 03:13 PM EST |
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I enjoy both Superman and Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Yes, I enjoy both Superman II and The Wrath of Kahn but there's something magical about the first movies in these series. If you haven't watched Superman in a while, dig it out on DVD. The version they released has fantastic sound and a great storyline. Excellent film.
As for Star Trek: The Motion Picture, the pacing of the movie is a bit slow, but I did enjoy the movie. What's different is the movie's style compared to today's fast edits. There are long, slow shots of Kirk flying up to the Enterprise for the first time and you get the sense that he's just amazed at how beautiful the new ship looks. And the music: Both score is fantastic!
But I want to put my vote in for Logan's Run. My wife totally despises this film, but I still remember watching it for the first time on TV when I was a young boy (anyone remember the TV series spin off they made? ha!). I would like to see this film remade with today's effects, but done right. There's a great story at the center of the film and that's why I enjoy it. It's not all about the special effects! |
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Greyroamer
Registered: 07/24/05
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Thursday, January 12 2006 @ 09:57 PM EST |
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[Quote by: Dangermouse] I am a big Godzilla fan (not the Hollywood version which Godzilla fans call "Gino" - Godzilla in name only).
The original 1950's film (Gojira) has a strong anti-nuclear message to it. The US edited 40 minutes out of the film and added twenty minutes of their own making an American reporter (called Steve Martin) the central character. The American version removed any anti-nuclear weapons message as they considered it anti-war. The film was the most expensive Japanese film ever when it was released, and you can buy the original on DVD. I've got a set with both the original Japanese film, and the Hollywood edit.
It suffered since with Godzilla films that don't live up to the standard of the first - but I've recently watched the latest films (Godzilla: Final Wars and some of the 2001 series) and they are excellent sci-fi films.
Some of the subtitling is a bit dodgy though - especially when they call Godzilla a "mobster" instead of "monster"!!! - I expected him to appear wearing a sharp italian suit and a machine gun!
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I was fortunate enough to see the orginal "Gojira" on the big screen last year when a revival tour of sorts was shown. I agree a great deal was lacking when they cut the movie and added Raymond Burr to it. Along with the original Godzilla, I would think that in a rare case, the remake of Gamera made in 1995 was well made with some great effects despite the "man in suit" concept.
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Greyroamer
Registered: 07/24/05
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Thursday, January 12 2006 @ 10:09 PM EST |
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| Ok now here's one that is real corny, but just plain fun! "At the Earth's Core" with Doug McClure and Peter Cushing! Sure you could see the wires connected to the flying creatures called the Mahars and see the fuel line connected to the fire breathing lizard, but the film had one of those things missing in many if not all films today, simple, plain fun with no message or meaning and you don't need to have mind blowing effects. I remember seeing the film in the theater and the people were having a blast. This film was made back in 1976, and hindsight being 20/20, you could see that George Lucas' timing was just right. My favorite line was Peter Cushing "You can't mesermirze me, I'm British!" |
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Dangermouse

Registered: 12/01/05
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Saturday, January 14 2006 @ 03:41 AM EST |
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I got a DVD a couple of months ago and only got round to watching it last night - Casshern.
It's a Japanese film that is almost a Sci-Fi epic! It's an amazing contrast to Hollywood sci-fi. I can strongly recommmend it. All the backgrounds are CGI, as are many of the scenes. It was rated PG here in the UK, which suprises me as there are some scary-ish scenes and a fair amount of blood and gore!
It's probably not under-rated in Japan, but nobody I ask over here has heard of it. |
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hdutch007

Registered: 12/27/05
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Saturday, January 14 2006 @ 03:24 PM EST |
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Yes! Logan's Run is a great movie! I loved it when I was younger, and I watched it about a year ago and still enjoyed the heck out of it. You know, X-Men and Usual Suspects (and now Superman Returns director) Brian Singer has been wanting to do a remake of this for a few years now. I have a feeling that if anyone could do it justice, it's him. But great choice.
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Jabberwocky


Registered: 12/26/05
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Saturday, February 25 2006 @ 09:02 PM EST |
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Louis

Registered: 01/01/04
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Saturday, February 25 2006 @ 10:01 PM EST |
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| [Quote by: Jabberwocky] Solar Crisis (1990) |
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I don't think I have seen that one... at least not that I can recall.
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Jabberwocky

Registered: 12/26/05
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Saturday, February 25 2006 @ 10:14 PM EST |
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I saw this on video because of a friend suggested that I rent it. I think it was a direct to video movie. I found it to be a good low budget sci-fi
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steven3x


Registered: 02/18/06
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Saturday, February 25 2006 @ 11:11 PM EST |
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Hmmm... other films that I rarely hear mentioned in mainstream, but I feel are some of the greatest ever made are:
1)Blade Runner
2)Forbidden Planet (still holds up to this day)
3)a Clockwork Orange
On review, Tron was way ahead of its time. I would also agree that 2001: a Space Odyssey & Alien are two of the greatest scifi films ever made.
Of course this is coming from the same guy that believes a New Hope was the greatest Star Wars film - and the only truly good one other than Revenge of the Sith. |
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