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     Saturday, April 11 2009 @ 07:00 PM EDT
    Managed to catch up on episode 3 via on-demand, as it clashed with DW. What can I say? Quite simply - THAT WAS THE BEST EPISODE OF PRIMEVAL SO FAR!

    Everything seemed to go up a notch, the acting, writing, cgi. Without spoiling it for you, this episode leaves the whole story of the team wide open. It felt and looked like a 'finale'. So it makes me wonder how good the actual finale will be.

    Dare I say I enjoyed it more than Planet of the Dead? Laughing Out Loud

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     Sunday, April 12 2009 @ 06:59 AM EDT
    Its repeated on ITV2 at 8 for those reading in the UK.

    Ok, its just an excuse to bump this topic = I loved the episode that much Big Grin

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     Sunday, April 12 2009 @ 07:14 AM EDT
    & in addition that - if anyone has TV via Virgin, it's on their "catch-up" section, so it can be viewed at anytime until next Saturday.

    I'm loving it too........

    Nothing dies of old age on Skaro!
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     Sunday, April 12 2009 @ 12:05 PM EDT
    I kind of think I liked this better than Planet of the Damned as well. Just as stories go, it was much better.

    But - HOKEY SMOKE! - I was shocked at the ending! Bringing it back to Doctor Who, the fact that we cannot be surprised the same way with Doctor Who anymore (not without living in a cave) is sad, and a little unfortunate. I can stay away from plot spoilers but staying away from announcements regarding casting (that are splattered over the front page of papers!) are a bit harder.

    Anyway, I'm looking forward to next weeks episode to see where the fallout really lies.

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     Sunday, April 12 2009 @ 01:11 PM EDT
    Yes, this series really has hit its stride splendidly. I thought the dinosaur of the week was a bit disappointing but really it was a sub-plot compared to what happened at the ARC. Although, is it just me or does the resolution to this seem quite obvious?
    Even so, this is a programme that seems to get away with the obvious week after week by doing it in a fresh, confident and unself-conscious manner. I know that one of Chase's critisisms of...well, just about everything is that they copy or are based on other sci-fi films, books, programmes. Let's face it, DS9 and Stargate were doing worm holes year ago. However, Primeval surely shows us that this doesn't matter so long as it's done in the right way. Roll on, looking forward to some big bad beasties next week!

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     Sunday, April 12 2009 @ 01:41 PM EDT

    [Quote  by:  Idiom] I know that one of Chase's critisisms of...well, just about everything...



    Laughing Out Loud LMAO

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     Monday, April 13 2009 @ 01:43 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  mad4plaid] I kind of think I liked this better than Planet of the Damned as well. Just as stories go, it was much better.

    But - HOKEY SMOKE! - I was shocked at the ending! Bringing it back to Doctor Who, the fact that we cannot be surprised the same way with Doctor Who anymore (not without living in a cave) is sad, and a little unfortunate. I can stay away from plot spoilers but staying away from announcements regarding casting (that are splattered over the front page of papers!) are a bit harder.

    Anyway, I'm looking forward to next weeks episode to see where the fallout really lies.
    You can live in a pretty spoiler-free world with DW if you want to without the assistance of a cave — especially if you don't actually live in the UK. Having played the game both ways, I can assuredly say DW is way better the less you know going in.

    I've retroactively gone back on the net to check news stories regarding Primeval, and it turns out that this week's developments weren't exactly a state secret. Again, it just depends on how much you want to look for it. Knowing relatively little about either POTD or this week's Primeval, I definitely preferred the former. Simple and joyful beats convoluted and dour any day of the week. There's a mighty ocean between a twist in the tale, and something that turns the show into a pale reflection of itself.

    I've waited from the first episode for this concept to gel and mature into something exceptional. But it's clear, now, that Primeval's production team have no concept of the tone they want their series to have, nor what audience they want to attract. Coherency and consistency are both further away now than ever. Is it a family show, as it appeared to be in Series 1 and some episodes thereafter? Or is it trying to use pointless violence to scratch what itches a narrower segment of the public? Is there structure and logic to the Primeval-verse, or is it just a random series of monsters with which a slacker and an ex-zookeeper can inexplicably cope? Is anyone on this show ever going to have a personal relationship in which we can invest, or is Primeval's eternal approach to romance going to be a series of significant looks and near-encounters? I don't have faith that the the writing staff really knows the answers to these questions.

    And I'm not going to wait any longer to see if they're going to find those answers, either. Seriously, this episode of Primeval was enough to make me stop watching the show. The climax was utterly unjustified by the setup, such as it was. The phrase, "sound and fury signifying nothing" bounds forcefully to mind.

    With all due respect to cybercolin, above, there's a difference between cracking "the whole story of the team wide open", and cracking it so hard that it's in shards on the ground that can never be put back together. I had such high hopes after the first two episodes. They really seemed to be slotting into groove. But with this single episode, I've literally gone from mildly recommending that people start watching this show to warning everyone to stay the hell away.

    It may seem awfully harsh of me to say that I'm giving up on the show before finishing a season. Maybe it is. I might come back if I hear enough voices recommending it in the future. But I can't help but give in to the overwhelming instinct I have that Primeval is on exactly the same trajectory as Hex, and I'm not prepared to get burned by a show like that again. The nine episodes of the back half of Hex Series 2 were enough of a slap in the face to make me extremely wary.

    Some writing staffs can cope with behind-the-scenes difficulties. Some can't. If this is Primeval's response to the realities of producing a television show, I can't imagine that they'll have any better ideas about how to continue on from here.

    It might be unnecessary to say at this point, but I give this episode, and now this whole damned programme, 0/5.

    "I think of myself as ambitious in casting terms, and I know that Bonnie [Langford] has the potential to make the part totally unirritating . . ." — JNT, 1986
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     Monday, April 13 2009 @ 06:39 AM EDT
    I've just watched.

    OMG.

    As has already been mentioned >>> that was a bomb.

    In terms of storylines, it's going to need something special to replace the obvious. Jason Flemying is a way cool enough actor to do that; but can his 3.2 Copper replace the central professor?? It's a big ask. I've not seen him in that many things, and what he's done seem to be variations on a theme - but it's a theme that appeals.

    Primeval is not without some flawed storylines, and the investment in characters that DarthSkeptical talked about (with exception of Connor and Abby) has been challenging (and yeah it just got harder), but I'm simply miles from giving up on this.

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     Monday, April 13 2009 @ 06:35 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  DarthSkeptical]You can live in a pretty spoiler-free world with DW if you want to without the assistance of a cave — especially if you don't actually live in the UK. Having played the game both ways, I can assuredly say DW is way better the less you know going in.


    I know, I know... I can only avoid temptation for so long, so I give in to the casting information on DW. Though, I do think it would have been difficutl to avoid 1) announcement that David is leaving, and 2) Matt Smith's casting. At least it would have been hard to avoid it while reading any DW website, or, I think, watching the BBC at all. When I last visited the UK (February) they were talking about it constantly on the BBC and in the Sunday Times as well.

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     Tuesday, April 14 2009 @ 05:04 PM EDT
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    [Quote  by:  DarthSkeptical]You can live in a pretty spoiler-free world with DW if you want to without the assistance of a cave — especially if you don't actually live in the UK. Having played the game both ways, I can assuredly say DW is way better the less you know going in.


    I know, I know... I can only avoid temptation for so long, so I give in to the casting information on DW. Though, I do think it would have been difficutl to avoid 1) announcement that David is leaving, and 2) Matt Smith's casting. At least it would have been hard to avoid it while reading any DW website, or, I think, watching the BBC at all. When I last visited the UK (February) they were talking about it constantly on the BBC and in the Sunday Times as well.


    Sadly, the last time I was in the States was about a 1/3rd of the way through the no Doctor years (on TV at least); so I can't speak for America - but avoiding major stories, casting details and bloody rumours is simply impossible here.

    I think the most irritating and glaring example was in the week between the Manhattan 2-parter; the Radio Times (the BBC's own magazine) had a full-on portrait of Dalek Sec on the front page. It was utterly, impossibly unavoidable, and totally ruinous.

    Saturday is another perfect example; I avoid as much detail as possible, I don't devour every little production detail that's released in advance, I avoid the news stories and speculative threads of the website I enjoy most, I try and actually not watch trailers, but I still knew that POTD had Michelle Ryan playing a posh-bird, on a bus in the desert, with a swarm coming. I guess one person's teaser is another man's spoiler.

    In the UK, when the series proper is in the middle of one of it's runs, I guess it's not so difficult to avoid individual episode spoilers, but for anything even approaching major, you'd definitely need a cave.

    Nothing dies of old age on Skaro!
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     Sunday, April 26 2009 @ 10:41 AM EDT
    I haven't been reading anything about Primeval online so I had no idea about the ep 3 ending. That really bummed me out. I haven't watched ep 4 yet, but I did start it just to see the opening credits. Is this new guy the actor who played Jeckyl in the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie?

    I'm going "Full Circle" and putting my avatar back to what it was when I first joined. :)
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     Sunday, April 26 2009 @ 12:01 PM EDT
    Speaking of a train murder mystery, wouldn't it be interestng if Doctor Who could do one but have the train moving backwards in time as well as having to solve the murder before it takes place AND having to figure out how to find the killer who hadn't realy killed anyone yet AND is the killer responsible if he doesn't really kill anyone? I dn't know IF something that strange can be done but certainly a show like DW is the place to do it. But I"m sure all we'll get is crap like NEXT DOCTOR and PLANET OF THE DEAD with some alien invasion and the Doc heroically coming to his end saving the day from the Master, THe Daleks, the Cybermen, giant worms, The Rutans, the Sontarans, the Rani, while simultanously fnding Gallifrey is stil around. Can't wait. Truthfully, can't wait till that s over so we can get Matt Smith

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     Sunday, April 26 2009 @ 12:31 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Chase] Speaking of a train murder mystery, wouldn't it be interestng if Doctor Who could do one but have the train moving backwards in time as well as having to solve the murder before it takes place AND having to figure out how to find the killer who hadn't realy killed anyone yet AND is the killer responsible if he doesn't really kill anyone?

    They did something like that in one of the Big Finish Gallifrey audios.

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     Sunday, April 26 2009 @ 02:47 PM EDT
    Really? Which one? And thanks for the info!

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     Sunday, April 26 2009 @ 03:26 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Chase] Really? Which one? And thanks for the info!

    I believe that it was the last one of the first series but could be wrong.

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