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     Friday, December 02 2005 @ 07:33 AM EST
    [Quote  by:  Speedy] I just worked on a SciFi movie in Romania and I can tell you definitively that SciFi do not like non-American accents of any kind.


    Hey! Maybe this is why Star Trek doesn't air on Sci Fi - there are too many non-US accents! Razz

    (Picard, Scotty, O'Brien, Troi, that British guy off Enterprise....etc)

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     Friday, December 02 2005 @ 03:40 PM EST
    [Quote  by:  Dangermouse] ...
    It was for this reason that Thnderbirds had an American family at the core - the idea was to make the show look like it was American so that the Networks would show it and the American audiences watch it.

    It's a shame that producers feel the need to abandon their identity in order to produce a show that will be marketable in the US. ...


    Another example would be another Gerry Anderson series he did after Thunderbirds, which is Space: 1999 which had the lead actors in the series being American. Presumably so that it could be easily marketed to the US, which it was at the time.

    Well, most Americans are simply missing out if they restrict themselves to just home-brewed programming. But then again, most just watch what is feed to them by the networks... most, if not all is just rubbish.


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     Saturday, December 03 2005 @ 04:44 PM EST
    [Quote  by:  Louis]
    Another example would be another Gerry Anderson series he did after Thunderbirds, which is Space: 1999 which had the lead actors in the series being American. Presumably so that it could be easily marketed to the US, which it was at the time.


    Louis,

    And the "prequel" to Space: 1999, UFO also cast an American, Ed Bishop, as the lead to play an American put in charge of SHADO. I still remember the first runs of both series here in the U.S. Personally, I would have preferred another season of UFO to Space: 1999, but that's probably just me...

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     Saturday, December 03 2005 @ 04:45 PM EST
    [Quote  by:  Louis]
    Well, most Americans are simply missing out if they restrict themselves to just home-brewed programming. But then again, most just watch what is feed to them by the networks... most, if not all is just rubbish.


    Here, here! I totally agree with that statement!

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     Saturday, December 03 2005 @ 07:30 PM EST
    [Quote  by:  Louis] Another example would be another Gerry Anderson series he did after Thunderbirds, which is Space: 1999 which had the lead actors in the series being American. Presumably so that it could be easily marketed to the US, which it was at the time.


    Actually that's very much a recurring theme with Gerry Anderson. Thunderbirds, Stingray, Fireball XL5, Captain Scarlet, UFO, Space 1999, Terrahawks - all had American accents in either lead or else very prominent roles.

    And as a completely dumb piece of incidental trivia, did you know that the guy who provides the voice for British Telecom's Speaking Clock is the same man who provides the "5, 4, 3, 2, 1" count down at the beginning of Thunderbirds?

    (Whoa! Sorry, just geeked out there for a minute!)

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     Monday, December 05 2005 @ 06:34 AM EST
    I didn't know that! I work for BT too!

    I do know however that the original voice of the speaking clock was Pat Simmons!

    "Pat was a supervisor at a London telephone exchange when she won a competition to find a new voice for the speaking clock in 1963. Her prize was £500.

    Her voice was heard by up to 300 million callers every year until her retirement in 1985 when BT opted for a less clipped accent and removed the word “precisely” from the recorded announcements. Pat was then replaced by Brian Cobby, an assistant night supervisor at a telephone exchange in Brighton."

    She died aged 85 last month.

    They often have celebrities doing the voice, or even children - for charity.


    Ah - you can tell I'm sat in a BT office!


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     Monday, December 05 2005 @ 07:06 AM EST
    [Quote  by:  tarashnat]

    And the "prequel" to Space: 1999, UFO also cast an American, Ed Bishop, as the lead to play an American put in charge of SHADO. I still remember the first runs of both series here in the U.S. Personally, I would have preferred another season of UFO to Space: 1999, but that's probably just me...

    Taras


    Actually, this proves the point even further... both Space: 1999 and UFO were re-tooled halfway through their run to make them seemingly more 'digestible' for American audiences. With UFO they seemed to dump the character Col. Alex Freeman (George Sewell) to feature the more strong-arm character of Col. Paul Foster (Michael Billington). Which is a shame because I thought the relationship between Straker and Freeman was fairly interesting. And of course, Space: 1999 had a big change going from the first series to the second series. I much preferred the first season to the second. Even though I like Catherine Schell's Maya character, the second series was an obvious attempt to model itself after Star Trek.

    I enjoy both UFO and Space: 1999... but I lean more towards Space: 1999 and would have preferred if they stayed more aligned with their first season's style and themes when they moved on to their second season. And as I said above, I preferred the first half the UFO with Alex compared the second half (not that the second half was bad, I just missed the Col. Alex Freeman character).

    But I guess Gerry Anderson always had in mind making headway with the American overseas market. Perhaps it was thought that is where the money was and if it could be sold there (here) it would keep the series afloat.

    Well... I need to get some sleep. I am not sure if I am making any sense at this point. Catch up with you later...

    Cheers,
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     Monday, December 05 2005 @ 06:53 PM EST
    Ah yes...

    ...otherwise known as the Fred Frieberger effect.

    Did he ever get the chance to screw up a THIRD series?

    As for me, I'm Canadian. I grew up with British TV. Tomorrow People, Thunderbirds, Space 1999, Monty Python, Man About The House, Coronation Street... we enjoyed British TV.

    Here in the US (where I now live) they'd rather take a British classic and remake it with Americans ("Three's Company") than just show the original.

    In Canada, the original was fine. No need to remake it.

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     Tuesday, December 06 2005 @ 04:34 AM EST
    Yeah, that always seems to perplex me too.

    You'll hear someone saying how much they loved a British TV show (or film, or whatever) - and that they want to re-do it. If they love it so much then they wouldn't have it re-written, recasted, and re-filmed!!!

    The Office and Cracker are probably two recent examples. Film-wise there's The Italian Job, a classic! The remake bore no real resemblence, it was just selling on the back of a cool retro film title.

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     Tuesday, December 06 2005 @ 07:10 AM EST
    I agree with you on The Office and Cracker. Neither could possibly touch the British original.

    But The Italian Job having nothing to do with the original?

    Dude!

    MINI COOPERS!!! :-)

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     Tuesday, December 06 2005 @ 09:23 AM EST
    But it was nowhere near as good as the original! New minis are nice cars, they are lovely, they are one of the nicest things on the road - but they aren't minis!! They are a BMW supermini car with retro mini styling. The original mini had a cute bouncy form.

    I can almost picture the boardroom meeting that resulted in the decision to comission that film:

    Organ Grinder
    : "We need a new film, we've done teen gross-outs using the same jokes about 6 times now - we need to jump on another bandwagon"

    Monkey: "The Italian job was huge in the '60s! We could do that one"

    Organ Grinder: "Hmmm, might be good"

    Monkey: "We'll set it in America though and use the same film title"

    Organ Grinder: "Great stuff, we could also look at doing Get Carter and Alfie as well! Get Sly Stallone on the phone!"


    Well - it MIGHT have been like that! Laughing Out Loud

    Expect the new summer blockbuster for next year to be "Zulu" - set in the bronx! Big Grin





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     Tuesday, December 06 2005 @ 05:38 PM EST
    I'm sure the hardened Doctor Who fans have probably already heard about this story but I remember reading the big Doctor Who feature they printed in Radio Times in 1996 to celebrate the transmission of the TV movie in the UK. In the feature they described some of the problems the BBC team had faced when trying to explain to the US panel of producers the importance of keeping the Doctor British.

    Over the hours of the meetng the producers had suggested approaching names like Alec Baldwin, Michael Keaton and Jim Carey. "No, no, no" said one of the BBC team, "He has to be British. With the long running nature of the series we can't just throw out a Doctor with an American accent and expect the long-term fans to accept it. He has to be someone with an instant and obvious air of Britishness about him."

    ...and after a long pause, one of the producers piped up with "I know, David Hasselhoff!"

    Ahh, what might have been...

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     Tuesday, December 06 2005 @ 10:46 PM EST
    [Quote  by:  Abersoch] ...and after a long pause, one of the producers piped up with "I know, David Hasselhoff!"


    THANK THE LORD THIS DID NOT HAPPEN!!! My gosh, David Hasselhoff??? ::::-PUKE-::::

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     Wednesday, December 07 2005 @ 12:10 AM EST
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    [Quote  by:  Abersoch] ...and after a long pause, one of the producers piped up with "I know, David Hasselhoff!"


    THANK THE LORD THIS DID NOT HAPPEN!!! My gosh, David Hasselhoff??? ::::-PUKE-::::


    And then the TARDIS would become a car with a scanning light in the hood and it would talk?... YIKES!

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     Wednesday, December 07 2005 @ 02:48 AM EST
    Oh my God! That would have been ....different!!

    He's got the curly hair - he might have done a Tom Baker-esque performance!


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