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     Monday, October 23 2006 @ 02:18 AM EDT

    ** This thread assumes you have seen this episode. Therefore there may be possible spoilers pertaining to this episode here within. **


    I have to say that I liked this episode better than the first. Not that the first was horrible, but it had to do what a first episode seems obligated to do so often, is set everything up for the rest of the series. Now that was taken care of, episode 2, Day One can get into the full swing of the series & characters and perhaps is a taste of what is yet to come. I enjoyed it.

    I thought the characters had a chance to flesh themselves out more. Captain Jack had some great lines. Overall it had more humour, action, suspense, and... err... sex.

    The coming attractions for this episode didn't really grab me so much, so perhaps that has attributed itself to my delight as it was better than what I was expecting.

    Also another factor perhaps is that I didn't watch the two episodes back-to-back. I came here to discuss episode 1 first before viewing episode 2, which allowed me to digest the first episode a bit before diving into the second.

    It was also good to see that the Doctor had a hand in this story as well. Wink

    What did you think?

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     Monday, October 23 2006 @ 09:24 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Louis]
    Also another factor perhaps is that I didn't watch the two episodes back-to-back. I came here to discuss episode 1 first before viewing episode 2, which allowed me to digest the first episode a bit before diving into the second.

    It was also good to see that the Doctor had a hand in this story as well. Wink

    What did you think?

    Cheers,
    Louis


    I enjoyed the first night and think they were right to show 2 episodes back-to-back - as you say Louis most of the action came in the second episode.

    In some ways I wonder why it was shown as 2 episodes and not a 'feature length TV movie'

    As I've read in another forum - in defence of it being not up to top expectations - think of the first two Buffy episodes.

    In fact it probably took part way into the second season for Buffy to get it's full look and feel.

    So overall I'd say it was a pretty good start.

    Cheers, daveac

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     Monday, October 23 2006 @ 10:09 AM EDT

    Having equal length episodes makes it easier to sell the series to other markets/channels. When the BBC changed the episode length for Colin Baker's first full season of Doctor Who to approx. 45 minutes each, there were edits to make the episode lengths at 25 minutes each for some markets, cutting the episodes in half. Other markets showed complete stories in an omnibus (movie) format with no cliffhangers.

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     Monday, October 23 2006 @ 02:57 PM EDT
    While I thought that this episode was slightly better than the previous one, I still didn't think that it was that good of a show. More "adult" content that really just felt like naughtiness for naughtiness sake. Or in other words, sex just for titilation and to make viewers blush a bit.
    This episode did have a bit more character development, which is the main thing I am looking for in these shows. At least this episode the question of where Jack came from is actually adressed, but I have to say that outside of him, I still really don't care what happens to these characters. The only sympathy I feel for the main female lead is a carryover from her role in Unquiet Dead.
    The teaser for episode 3 looks like it may actually be better. There seems to be much more going on, and it actually concerns something paranormal, as opposed to a sex loving alien entity.
    final verdict: 3 out of 5 captive Weevils.

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     Monday, October 23 2006 @ 03:20 PM EDT
    I'm guessing that RTD is using his old trick of putting all the "smutty bits" (and I use the term lightly) in the early episodes for one of two reasons:

    1.) To cause increased interest in the series from the "Wow! You nearly got to see someone's bottom" crowd

    2.) To warn those likely to be offended by use of sex in a programme (who will also probably start writing letters of complaint to the editor of the Daily Mail in their dozens and thereby seal the success of the programme)

    He did something very similar in the first 10 minutes of Queer as Folk which caused a similar hoo-har and increased the viewing figures 100-fold.

    I suspect that once the initial shocker episode are out of the way the future ones will calm down a bit and focus on story-lines more.

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     Monday, October 23 2006 @ 11:11 PM EDT
    I thought that both episodes were a good start.

    They were enjoyable and I think that there is more to come as the series goes on.

    They look like they could do with some original ideas though this looked like the PG version of speciesSmile

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     Tuesday, October 24 2006 @ 12:40 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  BadWolf]...
    They look like they could do with some original ideas though this looked like the PG version of speciesSmile


    And aside from the casting perhaps, Species didn't have anything original in it either... so what you are saying is that it is rehashing the rehashed. Wink

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     Tuesday, October 24 2006 @ 09:43 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Louis]
    [Quote  by:  BadWolf]...
    They look like they could do with some original ideas though this looked like the PG version of speciesSmile


    And aside from the casting perhaps, Species didn't have anything original in it either... so what you are saying is that it is rehashing the rehashed. Wink

    Cheers,
    Louis


    I think you can go back earlier than that. That about 'Mantrap' which was the second? Star Trek story I think after 'Where no man has gone before.'

    I know it was 'The Cage' that was 'first made.'

    In 'Mantrap' the creature, looking like a woman, sucked the salt out of her victims - but it's a similar idea if not as sexual.

    Cheers, daveac


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     Tuesday, October 24 2006 @ 12:11 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  daveac]
    [Quote  by:  Louis]
    [Quote  by:  BadWolf]...
    They look like they could do with some original ideas though this looked like the PG version of speciesSmile


    And aside from the casting perhaps, Species didn't have anything original in it either... so what you are saying is that it is rehashing the rehashed. Wink

    Cheers,
    Louis


    I think you can go back earlier than that. That about 'Mantrap' which was the second? Star Trek story I think after 'Where no man has gone before.'

    I know it was 'The Cage' that was 'first made.'

    In 'Mantrap' the creature, looking like a woman, sucked the salt out of her victims - but it's a similar idea if not as sexual.

    Cheers, daveac



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     Tuesday, October 24 2006 @ 12:38 PM EDT
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    [Quote  by:  Louis]
    [Quote  by:  BadWolf]...
    They look like they could do with some original ideas though this looked like the PG version of speciesSmile


    And aside from the casting perhaps, Species didn't have anything original in it either... so what you are saying is that it is rehashing the rehashed. Wink

    Cheers,
    Louis


    I think you can go back earlier than that. That about 'Mantrap' which was the second? Star Trek story I think after 'Where no man has gone before.'

    I know it was 'The Cage' that was 'first made.'

    In 'Mantrap' the creature, looking like a woman, sucked the salt out of her victims - but it's a similar idea if not as sexual.

    Cheers, daveac

    Common guys, surely some of you are married. The idea of a woman sucking the life out of a man is as old as the man/woman dynamic, it just takes longer and is sometimes less fun. Wink

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     Tuesday, October 24 2006 @ 03:10 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Louis]
    ** This thread assumes you have seen this episode. Therefore there may be possible spoilers pertaining to this episode here within. **

    It was also good to see that the Doctor had a hand in this story as well. Wink

    What did you think?

    Cheers,
    Louis


    Ah HA!!!! Boy! Do I feel like an idiot! I was so curious what part the hand was going to play in this, not even making the connection (pardon the pun) to TCI!!

    Wow!! Oh man!! I feel like the "blonde" in the room who just got the joke explained to her!

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     Tuesday, October 24 2006 @ 05:44 PM EDT
    Am I the only one who saw a pair of legs sticking out of the wheelie bin when they were looking about in the alleyway???

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     Wednesday, October 25 2006 @ 12:24 AM EDT
    I ppresume that this episode was shown directly after the first so that the sexual content was after 10pm. I'm not entirely sure of the current situation but the BBC used to have a two tier watershed with certain things be permissible after 9pm and other after 10pm. I'm sure this pretty much applied when they were making "This Life".

    Picking up on other peoples comments about Species and the mantrap, I'm sure there was an episode of the Outer Limits (recent remake, not the classic series) which had a very similar alien, though no secret organization chasing it. Does anyone else recall such an episode?


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     Wednesday, October 25 2006 @ 12:44 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Doctor Whoovie] ...
    Picking up on other peoples comments about Species and the mantrap, I'm sure there was an episode of the Outer Limits (recent remake, not the classic series) which had a very similar alien, though no secret organization chasing it. Does anyone else recall such an episode?



    Yes, now that you mentioned it, I do recall the episode you are talking about. I believe I stumbled on it, and starting watching it while it was already in progress. So I don't believe I saw it from the beginning if memory serves. I can't help you with a title... Didn't the episode conclude in some sort of hospital or clinic?

    Cheers,
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     Wednesday, October 25 2006 @ 01:46 PM EDT
    Ya'll are right, not an original idea; but the classics always play well when given with a twist. It's got "succubus" written all over it - especially when consider the alien didn't want Gwen, it had to be a man.

    I liked this ep better than the first. Highly entertaining. Seriously though, Jack's sexual engery was enough to placate the alien for a bit? Yet he was moved at the end of the ep by a quick "thank you" peck from Gwen....oh well, I was worried after the first ep that RTD was going to neuter our transexual hero.

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