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     Wednesday, October 25 2006 @ 06:32 PM EDT
    . . . and you just happned upon Torchwood quite by accident, would either episode so far have convinced you to become a regular viewer? Has the show really gripped you? Do you find any emotional resonance in it? Any ongoing mystery you really want to follow?


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     Wednesday, October 25 2006 @ 06:54 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  DarthSkeptical] . . . and you just happned upon Torchwood quite by accident, would either episode so far have convinced you to become a regular viewer? Has the show really gripped you? Do you find any emotional resonance in it? Any ongoing mystery you really want to follow?


    Well as mention elsewhere if you had watched the first two episodes of Buffy or the first two episodes of StarTrek: The Next Gerneration how would you have rated them?

    Or in the UK the new Robin Hood?

    On that basis I think the first two episodes if judged together make at least a reasonable to good start.

    In fact after a second watch through I'll up that to quite good to good.

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     Wednesday, October 25 2006 @ 07:18 PM EDT
    That analogy doesn't work for Torchwood, though, because TNG and Buffy were adaptations of established concepts. This is practically an original series. There's a tenuous connection to another program, but it's pretty minimal. The closest analogies in American TV, at least, are Trapper John, M.D. and Lou Grant.

    "I think of myself as ambitious in casting terms, and I know that Bonnie [Langford] has the potential to make the part totally unirritating . . ." JNT, 1986
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     Wednesday, October 25 2006 @ 07:19 PM EDT
    I think it would have been enough to pique my interest and make me give it another two or three weeks to see whether I really did like it.

    I guess it's like that Robin Hood series - which I absolutely hate at the moment. I'm sticking with it to see if it improves.

    With both series the big thing for me will be to see if any overall story arc seems to be developing and how the characterisation develops. If it all looks like flashiness over substance then I'll jib it. For me the strength of Torchwood at the moment lies in the fact that it's trying to do something new and different, whereas Robin Hood doesn't have that excuse and trying to put a modern twist on an old legend really doesn't cut it if it's not done correctly.

    Either way, I've not seen enough yet of either series to make me give up on them yet. In fact if I remember rightly, I wasn't that impressed with the BSG 4-hour mini-series when I first saw it either. It took me a few episodes before I really got into it.

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     Wednesday, October 25 2006 @ 07:23 PM EDT
    For me, yes.

    I've been waiting for something to step into the huge void left behind by The X-Files, and this may be it.

    So far so good. And I really really like Eve Myles...

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     Wednesday, October 25 2006 @ 07:40 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  DarthSkeptical] That analogy doesn't work for Torchwood, though, because TNG and Buffy were adaptations of established concepts. This is practically an original series. There's a tenuous connection to another program, but it's pretty minimal. The closest analogies in American TV, at least, are Trapper John, M.D. and Lou Grant.


    OK - then fair to good - but I agree it wasn't a flying start. The best start I've seen recently must be 'Life on Mars' which just grabbed you from the start.

    Cheers, daveac

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     Wednesday, October 25 2006 @ 08:09 PM EDT
    Hmmm... Time travelling officer gets involved with local policewoman, hey wait... Torchwood is copying Life on Mars!!!

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     Wednesday, October 25 2006 @ 08:32 PM EDT
    If I just stumbled across Torchwood, I would probably think to myself that it has a lot of potential that it has yet to live up to. I think the writing is not very good. I'm sorry. It seems to play to the lowbrow end of things. I said it in another thread, but some four letter words and sex doesn't make an adult show. I was expecting to be disturbed and challenged by what I saw, but it really only felt like I was watching a late night cable movie.
    I understand that it is just two episodes in, and that sometimes shows take some time to hit their stride, but I must point out that in America, tv shows don't get multiple episodes to get an audience. They get a couple, maybe three if they are lucky, and if they don't perform, they get cancelled. I will point to the remake of Kolchak the Night Stalker that showed earlier this year. It actually made it to, I believe, 5 or 6 episodes before it got cancelled. Those of us who were enjoying what the series was trying to do felt like that was too soon to pull the plug, but that's just not the way things go these days. Shows have to perform here or they get cancelled.
    My main critique is that there was not enough character development, the writing was poor and full of either holes or annoying bits (like the long mouthed guy taking home the perfume to attract a woman), and silly shots, like Jack doing a Batman impersonation on top of the building.
    If this show was not Doctor Who related, I'd say "this show is trying too hard and not delivering the things that suck in a viewer." Doctor Who sucked me in within 2 episodes. Buffy, while better as it went, was a strong 2 part opening. If it wasn't Doctor Who related, I would still perhaps watch the whole season, but this is not what I would consider a terribly good television show.

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     Wednesday, October 25 2006 @ 08:34 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  seanhuxter] For me, yes.

    I've been waiting for something to step into the huge void left behind by The X-Files, and this may be it.

    So far so good. And I really really like Eve Myles...

    Sean.


    I agree... there is a void from the x-files that has never been filled (even by the x-files in its last two seasons).

    Sean is right this may be it......it also may not but for the moment it is enough to keep watching.

    You also have to remember that in each of the new Dr. Who series RTD has given us one or two "wow" episodes we could also get these here too

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     Wednesday, October 25 2006 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    Well, one interesting observation is that Torchwood is generating a lot of Forum traffic and comment, whilst Series Two showing in America, Canada, Austrialia etc etc at the moment is generating no Forum response at all!

    This says something about the embassy members and their extensive use of other means . So we're either all British (and resident in the UK) or seeing David Tennant episodes for the first time is having no impact on the membership. Even "life on Mars", "Robin Hood" and the classic reruns on the Canadian Children's BBC Channel are generating more comments than the season two premieres in three major countries.

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     Wednesday, October 25 2006 @ 10:52 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  tarashnat] Hmmm... Time travelling officer gets involved with local policewoman, hey wait... Torchwood is copying Life on Mars!!!


    Actually, that thought did cross my mind watching it... At least the scenario of a "fish-out-of-water" cop finding himself/herself in a situation where his/her coworkers are working outside of established protocol that he/she always worked within...

    So Gwen may not have traveled to 1973, but she seems to found herself in a similar situation as Sam Tyler in Life on Mars.

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     Wednesday, October 25 2006 @ 11:20 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Doctor Whoovie] Well, one interesting observation is that Torchwood is generating a lot of Forum traffic and comment, whilst Series Two showing in America, Canada, Austrialia etc etc at the moment is generating no Forum response at all!

    This says something about the embassy members and their extensive use of other means . So we're either all British (and resident in the UK) or seeing David Tennant episodes for the first time is having no impact on the membership. Even "life on Mars", "Robin Hood" and the classic reruns on the Canadian Children's BBC Channel are generating more comments than the season two premieres in three major countries.


    Interesting to say the least. Though there are still other Embassy members that are either not tech savvy enough to participate here (in fact one of our original members dating back to 1985 emailed me today concerning Tooth and Claw... she has yet to ever post here to my knowledge though) or they are deliberately staying away from the site until they have seen all of the 2006 series ("Series 2") so that they don't accidently run into spoilers here.

    Having said that, I think most of the active people here are indeed tech savvy enough to take that proverbial "red eye flight to the UK" to catch the episodes (i.e. "by other means").

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     Thursday, October 26 2006 @ 07:49 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  hdutch007] If I just stumbled across Torchwood, I would probably think to myself that it has a lot of potential that it has yet to live up to. I think the writing is not very good. I'm sorry. It seems to play to the lowbrow end of things. I said it in another thread, but some four letter words and sex doesn't make an adult show.


    Yes, of course, adding those things don't make an "adult" show, but they do make a "realistic" show. People talk that way. People act that way. It's just not portrayed much on TV, because of the legislated censorship most countries force upon its TV broadcasters.

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     Thursday, October 26 2006 @ 09:20 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  seanhuxter]
    [Quote  by:  hdutch007] If I just stumbled across Torchwood, I would probably think to myself that it has a lot of potential that it has yet to live up to. I think the writing is not very good. I'm sorry. It seems to play to the lowbrow end of things. I said it in another thread, but some four letter words and sex doesn't make an adult show.


    Yes, of course, adding those things don't make an "adult" show, but they do make a "realistic" show. People talk that way. People act that way. It's just not portrayed much on TV, because of the legislated censorship most countries force upon its TV broadcasters.

    Sean.


    I disagree. I have no issue with the language at all, but I don't think that lesbian snogging and self pleasuring to security cameras reflects reality. Sure, there are tons of late night encounters in the bathrooms of clubs, but I maintain that there were things in the episode that were placed there just to raise eyebrows and not to reflect reality.


    to comment on the fact that most of us are taking "red eye flights to the uk," that must be true. I am watching the episodes on scifi channel as well, but there are no comments here about those. I personally think that "red eye flights to the UK" are the future and that it's just a matter of time before that is how most shows and movies are distributed. George Lucas is already talking about how he is considering distributing his Star Wars live action television show via download on demand.

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     Thursday, October 26 2006 @ 09:54 AM EDT
    As far as the "red eye flight to the U.K.", I am one of those who have not figured out how to get a passport. Thus far, all I can discover searching around is fan made music videos.

    Does one need to make a hardware investment to obtain a passport, or is it a question of finding the correct site?

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