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     Monday, December 04 2006 @ 06:48 PM EST
    [Quote  by:  DarthSkeptical]

    And of course there's the sheer ridiculousness of Jack having to call out for quotations from a work of classic literature, which is available, in its entirety, online. They didn't lose their internet. Amazon would've had the ISBN number. Tosh looked a bit of an internet newbie there, IMHO.


    Yes they had lost all contact with the outside world - internet included.

    Ianto had rigged up the phone using the water tower feature as an relay to the outside world.

    Cheers, daveac

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     Monday, December 04 2006 @ 07:46 PM EST
    This is a true example of "Suspended Disblief" having an IT background myself, there are numerous things wrong with the scene. Do what I did Ignore it the lockpick wasn't brought up for dramatic timing reasons (and would have had them stoping Gwen & Susie before they left the parking lot), and the conversation with the cops was for comedy. And the chances of having the right ISBN (every edition has its own) would still have taken time. The cops had the edition that had the data they needed, and they milked it until it wasn't useful for the plot anymore.

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     Tuesday, December 05 2006 @ 12:58 AM EST
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    [Quote  by:  DarthSkeptical]

    And of course there's the sheer ridiculousness of Jack having to call out for quotations from a work of classic literature, which is available, in its entirety, online. They didn't lose their internet. Amazon would've had the ISBN number. Tosh looked a bit of an internet newbie there, IMHO.


    Yes they had lost all contact with the outside world - internet included.

    Ianto had rigged up the phone using the water tower feature as an relay to the outside world.

    Cheers, daveac
    No, they'd lost power. They had a cell phone with reception. They had portable computers with independent power supplies. They therefore had the internet. And that's only talking about the rather ordinary technology available to any ape walkin' the planet.

    They must have technology akin to what field researchers and reporters currently have—direct, entirely self-contained, satellite linkup to the internet. I mean, that's what Tosh doubtless used in the car at the top of the episode to do DNA checks at the crime scene.

    "I think of myself as ambitious in casting terms, and I know that Bonnie [Langford] has the potential to make the part totally unirritating . . ." — JNT, 1986
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     Tuesday, December 05 2006 @ 01:08 AM EST

    How many routers, including wireless ones, have a battery backup???

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     Tuesday, December 05 2006 @ 01:21 AM EST
    [Quote  by:  tarashnat]
    How many routers, including wireless ones, have a battery backup???
    Don't need a router to get the internet through a cell phone or a satellite downlink device.

    "I think of myself as ambitious in casting terms, and I know that Bonnie [Langford] has the potential to make the part totally unirritating . . ." — JNT, 1986
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     Tuesday, December 05 2006 @ 01:51 AM EST

    Now, how many stationairy desktop computers are equipped with those? The mobile equipment is in their pimped out ride, most likely in a car park...

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     Tuesday, December 05 2006 @ 01:58 AM EST
    I personally just use the chip in my head Wink . I have bigger issues with the fact
    that they trusted any files (even if it turns out to be an organic quantum computer)
    that Susie had in system that had protocal calls to the security of the base.
    It is becoming a problem in Drama and Sci-Fi, someone either dies or commits
    Treason and they leave their server accounts and file systems intact. In a competent
    company (or Government orginization) I can tell you, that is not how the world works.
    Of course it is also part of the reason that Doctor Who doesn't really try to explian the
    ramifications of time travel from a scientific standpoint (it just doesn't hold the attention
    of the general public).

    I'm a Time Traveler, I point and laugh at archaeologist.
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     Tuesday, December 05 2006 @ 02:12 AM EST
    [Quote  by:  tarashnat]
    Now, how many stationairy desktop computers are equipped with those? The mobile equipment is in their pimped out ride, most likely in a car park...
    But it's not special equipment. It's just taking your cell phone, sliding it into nothing more complicated than a USB port and dialing. There were portable computers in the Hub, so it's a done deal. Even this relatively slow way of connecting to the internet would've been preferable, I would have thought, to asking for outside help and having to lose face with the local police.

    And, again, this is just the most basic way to connect to the internet when you have no power source. I would've thought that if they have the technology in the "Torchwood mobile", they've gotta have power-independent satellite-based field units somewhere in that Hub.

    Sure, the bit with the local police detective was funny, but the points scored by having the moment were totally nullified by the senseless way they got there. It made Torchwood, and maybe particularly Tosh, look like so much less formidable than we've been led to believe they are. I mean, everyday ordinary businesses have backup plans for power loss, but the most technologically advanced organization in Britain doesn't? There's simply no way that even a brain as supposedly strong as Suzie's could've engineered a 100% loss of power and internet connectivity in this mobile day and age.

    "I think of myself as ambitious in casting terms, and I know that Bonnie [Langford] has the potential to make the part totally unirritating . . ." — JNT, 1986
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     Tuesday, December 05 2006 @ 02:41 AM EST
    Gwen is really pretty.

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     Tuesday, December 05 2006 @ 02:48 AM EST
    [Quote  by:  Haaai!] Gwen is really pretty.


    Laughing Out Loud I don't think you will get alot of argument there Haaai!. Wink

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     Tuesday, December 05 2006 @ 05:27 AM EST
    [Quote  by:  Haaai!] Gwen is really pretty.


    Apart from the huge GAP in her teeth.


    Of course now Darthy has put his oar in I have to echo his gripes. I didn't get all angsty about the tech issues at the time though. I'm just assuming that they probably fire Tosh or Ianto or whoever is their 'IT Expert' and actually hire someone who knows what they're doing around a motherboard. (Darth I'm sure you'll apply...hell, so will I). Having said that, Ianto and Tosh aren't going anywhere as long as Jack has long, and apparently sleepless, nights to fill with brooding and games of twister.

    I did however have, during the ep, that sustaining belly ache of an issue with the 'Oh, you're Torchwood' line. Mostly because before Gwen got roped into the Hub the entire metropolitan police force in the Greater United Kingdom had no clue who Torchwood or Jack was. Now all of a sudden Jack has a 'reputation' which the lovely DI has heard of enough to wise crack about....

    Phew, it's taken me three days but finally I have regained my cynical view of the world.

    Actually my assumption now is that they are intravenously feeding Rohyipnol, or whatever that drug was, into the Cardiff water supply. Along with a healthy does of pheromones. Therefore making the police and Cardiff people not only very absent minded but also very randy.

    As a final note. I just watched the final two eps of Who2 again. Some notes to make and remember:

    1) Torchwood has always been a lapsing a bit on ability (my belief is they are not recruiting at the right universities or levels. I think Tosh got her IT skills writing html with a crayon)

    2) Everyone in Torchwood has the permanent horn. Note even in the Army of Ghosts half the team were slipping into plastic sheeting for a quick 'snog' (I think Yvonne released some sort of pheromone into the water coolers)

    3) If the DOCTOR has lived his entire life without 'hearing' of the Torchwood Institute how the hell do the Met manage to keep 'bumping into them'.

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     Tuesday, December 05 2006 @ 09:09 AM EST
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    [Quote  by:  Haaai!] Gwen is really pretty.


    Apart from the huge GAP in her teeth.


    I bet you'd never see an American actress with a gap - could become the tooth equivalent of a beauty spot Eek!

    Cheers, daveac

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     Tuesday, December 05 2006 @ 09:17 AM EST



    Speaking as a person that has been mistaken for David Letterman & Mickey Dolenz, I can say she is a far site more attractive than the male members of The Clan Gaptooth Wink . I think it's great that the UK doesn't force perfection down our throats like they do in the U.S. and so give out a cheer for Gwen.

    "Brava!"

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     Tuesday, December 05 2006 @ 10:02 AM EST
    [Quote  by:  daveac]
    [Quote  by:  whodovoodoo]
    [Quote  by:  Haaai!] Gwen is really pretty.


    Apart from the huge GAP in her teeth.


    I bet you'd never see an American actress with a gap - could become the tooth equivalent of a beauty spot Eek!

    Cheers, daveac


    "I'm being facetious...there's really no need"


    She really is lovely. And I am glad she didn't die.

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     Tuesday, December 05 2006 @ 06:09 PM EST
    Like many who have commented so far I really enjoyed this story - the second in a row that had me delighted. Torchwood seems to have found its feet.

    There was something in the forums a week or two ago about whether Torchwood would be limited to one season or not.....I don't know if you caught Declassified or not, but at one point RTD says that if they brought Susie back in SERIES 2 no-one would remember who she was and therefore she had to be brought back in series 1. So maybe there is life for Torchwood beyond Series 1.


    By the way - I think the actress who played Detective Swanson also played Jabe in Series 1 "The End of the World".

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