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     Saturday, February 09 2008 @ 02:53 AM EST
    This is the first Torchwood episode I've managed to catch from the second series and I thought it was pretty good. Probably the strongest episode of Torchwood I've seen ever.

    I must say though that Tosh constantly fauning after Owen seemed a bit forced. It felt as though I was watching an episode of Hollyoaks (teen soap)or Grange Hill (childrens school based drama) at times - I was cringing as it was so transparent!

    He's the strongest, he's the quickest, he's the best..... "Yorkshire is a state of mind"
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     Saturday, February 09 2008 @ 08:49 PM EST
    I liked the story and have felt that this season of Torchwood is much stronger. I did feel that "Meat" could have been about five minutes shorter. Having the whole team be captured at gunpoint by some not very bright criminals seemed a bit of a stretch. I know, it's a plot device but the situation seemed more LINDA than Torchwood.

    Nevertheless, I liked the story and idea of the food supply having alien components in it was a good one even if it made reach for a vegetable.

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     Saturday, February 09 2008 @ 09:00 PM EST
    First post here. I've been working my way through the archive of the podcast (which is terrific, btw - I started laughing on the bus yesterday at the "sexy James" promo) and figured I ought to head over here.

    I really liked this episode. I think each episode of the second series is just getting better and better. I liked the first series for what it was, although it was nowhere near as good as Who is. That said, the second series is head and shoulders above the first.

    This episode was fast-paced, funny, meaningful, and had some of the best character interaction yet. I've never been as against Gwen as some people are, but in the episode last year when she gave Rhys retcon she absolutely infuriated me - talk about selfish - and she never came back from that. I think the time Jack spent away and the events of "End of Days" have changed her relationship with Rhys and she really is realizing that it's not enough to keep him around because she can't break the habit. In addition, Rhys really showed his stuff and essentially proved himself worthy of being an honorary Torchwood member. As someone mentioned above, he got far more detective work done than they did.

    The Tosh/Owen thing has been there from the beginning, and I think they have more in common now than ever. Owen is definitely softening up and I think Burn's a much better actor this season. There were a few shots where he wasn't speaking but you could really see how much he was listening. They had a little bonding last week and he's finally acting like a human being.

    I think the jokes were great (I had to pause because I was laughing so hard at the "homoerotic" line) and so were the effects. True, the CGI was a bit dodgy, but they are working on a TV budget here. The CGI was more than compensated for with the sound design. The whale noises and child's cries communicated so much more than any CGI could, and I thought it was brilliant.

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     Monday, February 11 2008 @ 10:45 AM EST
    I liked it. Another solid all-around episode. Somebody mentioned the Creature from the Pit reference which I hadn't picked up on, but that's a good one (also a highly under-rated episode from the T Baker era if I may say).

    The only thing I didn't like was during the 1st time the team went to the warehouse, and Rhys followed them. Rhys starts getting questioned by the criminals and Gwen wants to go break things up and Jack holds her back. I just felt like that part where Jack is holding her back and they're conversing was poorly acted and seemed very amateur-ish. Don't get me wrong, I couldn't act my way out of a paper bag, but it just felt like one of those situations where you say, "I could've pulled that scene off better than him."

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     Monday, February 11 2008 @ 11:30 AM EST
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    Just posting to say I like your new Dangermouse avatar Big Grin

    Cheers, daveac

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     Monday, February 11 2008 @ 11:32 AM EST
    [Quote  by:  sgb1975] I just felt like that part where Jack is holding her back and they're conversing was poorly acted and seemed very amateur-ish. Don't get me wrong, I couldn't act my way out of a paper bag, but it just felt like one of those situations where you say, "I could've pulled that scene off better than him."


    It looked like one of them (I bet Jack) fluffed their lines - and both were waiting for the other to speak.

    Cheers, daveac

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     Monday, February 11 2008 @ 01:03 PM EST
    [Quote  by:  Mawdryn]Nevertheless, I liked the story and idea of the food supply having alien components in it was a good one even if it made reach for a vegetable.


    There have been many accusations that Torchwood has various "agendas". Now it seems they've taken on the vegetarian cause. This was a cautionary tale about eating meat in general.

    However, don't be so fast to reach for those vegetables... doesn't anyone remember "Day of the Triffids!?!?!?!"

    :-)

    Sean.

    One solid hope is worth a cartload of uncertainties.
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     Monday, February 11 2008 @ 11:40 PM EST
    I read through the thread and had some stuff to say, but I already lost it. The ep was ok. Most of the acting was hammier than the alien meat. I just couldn't take Jack seriously with his "I'm so sorry my poor friend" or whatever the hell he said. And the "he seemed happy" line after Gwen asked him if he ate alien meat was a total, "he did not just say that" moment for me. My poor wife, the total animal lover, had to stop watching when the thing was crying in pain. I tried telling her that they saved it at the end, but I'm a terrible liar. She knew I was full of it, but she was ok with the mercy killing. Tosh mooning over Owen, Ianto making eyes at Jack, Gwen making eyes at Jack, Jack coming on to Rhys' secretary...meh. Whatever. I don't expect anything from Torchwood anymore, so I guess I don't care enough to *censored* about it.

    Oh, and one thing I remembered...I totally agree that if the old lady crossing the street knows who Torchwood is, Rhys should have at least had some idea who they are. But like I said, Torchwood is so "lowered expectations" at this point.


    I'm going "Full Circle" and putting my avatar back to what it was when I first joined. :)
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