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     Thursday, March 06 2008 @ 09:07 PM EST
    Throught I'd start the ball running on this story, seeing as I managed to catch this one last night.

    I liked this one quite alot, it really had me on the edge of my seat, so to speak, moved and just plainly enjoying it. But that might be the big girl in me, seeing as this is a story set at Gwen's wedding after all.

    However, the whole Owen issue still grates on me, but at least they aren't dwelling on it *too much* or having him do anything too insane this week. (and keeping up with the continuity of his hand injury from last week.)
    And on a pure fangirl note, I loved the dancing scene at the end with Ianto. That boy's grown so much. Smile

    Overall, a good episode. Not perfect, but not horrible. It had me enjoying all 40 odd minutes of it. My third favourite of the season so far.

    Now what does everyone else think?


    bye bye david :(
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     Thursday, March 06 2008 @ 09:20 PM EST
    [Quote  by:  romana_II] Throught I'd start the ball running on this story, seeing as I managed to catch this one last night.

    Now what does everyone else think?



    I enjoyed the story - again Rhys and Gwen were great.

    The only problem I had was with Owen knowing so much about this alien race.

    He didn't sound as though he'd read up about them in the Torchwood Files - more that he knew a lot about alien races.

    Jack looked a bit upset with Ianto butting in - he has a thing for Qwen - maybe she reminded him of his wife as shown in the photo at the end.

    Cheers, daveac

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     Friday, March 07 2008 @ 06:22 AM EST

    And how about that trailer for Episode 10?!

    Torchwood does "The Greatest Show in the Galaxy"...

    "C'mon, Ace... we've got work to do!"
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     Friday, March 07 2008 @ 07:14 AM EST
    Next episode I believe is the PJ Hammond story, with the characters in films coming to life, much similar to the Sapphire and Steel story.
    Really looking forward to next week.

    bye bye david :(
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     Friday, March 07 2008 @ 08:05 AM EST
    All in all a bit of an action romp with awkward situations and slapstick comedy.

    Not saying I didn't like it, but it was all a bit predictable.

    And how many stories have I seen where a known shape-shifter is floating around somewhere, yet no one is the slightest bit suspicious when someone they know comes alone into a room.

    The scene with Jack and Gwen was ridiculous. Gwen's not that stupid, no matter what's happened.

    I DID like the misdirection they did with Rhys's mum, though. Making us think the one in the room is the shapeshifter, and not the one talking to Gwen's mum. Liked that. That was at least refreshing and fairly original.

    The rest... not original, much. Still fun, though.

    Sean.

    One solid hope is worth a cartload of uncertainties.
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     Friday, March 07 2008 @ 10:13 AM EST
    [Quote  by:  seanhuxter] ... not original, much. Still fun, though.


    I think I've come to realise that's the best you can expect from Torchwood. Don't get your hopes too high and you'll have an okay time of things. You'll have seen at all before somewhere, this is just old ideas being rehashed.

    The only reason I'm even watching this series (I bailed on series 1 halfway through) is because it's on the BBC's iPlayer and I can watch it online at lunchtimes during the week. Often while I'm doing something else.

    This episode was okay, nice to see Nerys Hughes again (last seen in Kinda, if memory serves). Liked the Evil Dead feel to it. I think Rhys is emerging as my favourite character, hope he doesn't get offed to make way for Gwen and Jack.

    If half the art of survival is running away, the other half is knowing when to keep a straight face.
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     Friday, March 07 2008 @ 10:28 AM EST
    I'm not quite sure how I feel about this episode yet. In general, I liked it quite a bit. It's much more character-based than most episodes. I liked the Gwen-Rhys interaction; the changes to Rhys and Ianto's characters alone would make this series worthwhile so far.

    Basically, my only real problem with this episode is the continuation of the Jack-Gwen tension. Up until their dancing, I thought that maybe the episode was saying that any romantic affection was all on her side. But when he made it so very clear that he was only dancing with Ianto grudgingly . . . I can only hope that this is all going to lead to the blow-up of tension that Ianto promised in "Cyberwoman" and they aren't just going to drop or toy with it. I don't want to see our teaboy hurt.

    I've got to wonder about the scalpel or whatever it is (I'm at school and can't check the name at the mo). It just killed the bug in Martha, and that was that. I don't know much about biology, but I thought maybe it would pass through her body, dissolve maybe? They clearly didn't have surgery to take it out. Now they kill the sac of eggs in Gwen, and her stomach just deflates. If you've ever seen a pregnant woman's stomach, it doesn't just work like that. (And they'd better not show her stomach without showing her either doing a hell of a lot of crunches, or show the skin as stretched out as it would be.) And where did those eggs go? They were killed, but wouldn't they just sit in her body slowly poisoning her? She certainly couldn't get up and run around afterwards and dance all night.

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     Friday, March 07 2008 @ 11:24 AM EST

    The alien device "vaporizes" the target, as in, it's gone. No remnants, no messy clean-up. No waxy buildupówell, at least I don't think so... So, ergo, eggs be gone!

    Daleks don't accept apologies! YOU WILL BE EXTERMINATED!
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     Saturday, March 08 2008 @ 12:43 AM EST
    [Quote  by:  daveac]The only problem I had was with Owen knowing so much about this alien race.


    It's kind of par for the course though, isn't it?

    I mean, if isn't Jack with an Doctor-like encyclopedia of knowledge to explain away the story, somebody else has to have it.

    It makes me feel like I'm watching any ol' episode of American sci-fi. Mr. Green

    But, yes, I agree with old china: I don't have my expectations set to high, and I'm just enjoying the episodes for what they are.

    And I've enjoyed every story so far this season.

    [Quote  by:  sarahbot]I've got to wonder about the scalpel or whatever it is (I'm at school and can't check the name at the mo). It just killed the bug in Martha, and that was that.


    The singularity scalpel. It disintegrates the object it targets. Efficient, yes? Smile

    Oh, and I loved the fact that Owen emptied at least two full clips into the creature. That's one helluva clip.

    And for my final thought: there's a guy that got rather, ahh, torn up in this episode. But apparently we're going to 'retcon 6' him out as well. Confused

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     Saturday, March 08 2008 @ 08:22 AM EST
    I gave up Series 1 about 4 episodes in, but I have to say I'm thoroughly enjoying this season.

    The first episode didn't do much for me, and I drifted away for the next few, but I've watched every episode from Meat onwards, and am pleased to discover I'm now eagerly awaiting the next episode each week.

    I'm particularly enjoying Ianto this year, he seems to have grown a lot as a character. He's the source of the series' best comedy, and manages to be both a stylish gentleman and a bit of a badass at times.

    The only disappointment I had this week was that, like some others have commented above, the Jack-Gwen romantic tension seems unnecessary.

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     Saturday, March 08 2008 @ 09:06 AM EST
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    The alien device "vaporizes" the target, as in, it's gone. No remnants, no messy clean-up. No waxy buildupówell, at least I don't think so... So, ergo, eggs be gone!


    It can't just "vaporize" the eggs, the vapor would still be inside Gwen. Vaporizing something also expands it. A solid vaporized takes up far more space. It has to teleport it.

    And also no one should take my negative comments on their own. Those were "the negatives" about the show, but other than that I really liked it. It wasn't a negative reaction to the whole episode.

    Sean.

    One solid hope is worth a cartload of uncertainties.
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     Saturday, March 08 2008 @ 12:32 PM EST


    It was a fun fast moving episode albeit feeling a bit too familiar at times. My problem was in order for it to go forward in the direction it wanted to go, it pretty much had to dumb down the character of Gwen.

    I don't think it was within the character of her to go forward with the wedding with all the implications of her current condition would create. At one point in the episode the character says "we didn't think this all out" or something like that... well, that is the whole thing, I think Gwen would have thought it all out before becoming iron-locked into the idea of going forward with the wedding.

    If she was dead set on tying the knot on that day, fine. They could have done it as a private wedding and postpone the family/friends ceremony to a future date when she would not be showing.

    But whatever. Often you have to throw logic out the window in this series. Like Owen not having any breath, yet he can talk just fine.

    Cheers,
    Louis

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     Monday, March 10 2008 @ 09:22 AM EDT
    Louis,

    I think that they were implying that her raging hormones didn't allow for her to think things out properly. At least that's how I took it.

    it was pretty obvious to me (which bothered me) that the scene in the bridal suite between Gwen and Jack wasn't really between Gwen and Jack. If she picked up on the scent of Brenda's perfume, I would assume that she'd be able to pick up on Jack not smelling right (and let's not get into what kind of scent that uber sex machine might have).

    I do hope that now that Gwen is married, they'll drop this Gwen/Jack potential and get back to the buddy-buddy stuff. As much of a player as Jack is, I think his own personal sense of morality (yes, I believe he has one) will prevent him from going for a married woman. But that's just my view of his character.

    Next week looks interesting -- especially with us getting a glimpse of Jack's past (hopefully more than a glimpse!)

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     Monday, March 10 2008 @ 10:05 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Louis]
    I don't think it was within the character of her to go forward with the wedding with all the implications of her current condition would create. At one point in the episode the character says "we didn't think this all out" or something like that... well, that is the whole thing, I think Gwen would have thought it all out before becoming iron-locked into the idea of going forward with the wedding.

    Cheers,
    Louis


    Well they showed her eating whole pickled gurkins - so we could take it that she was in full 'pregnancy mode' - and maybe not thinking straight.

    Cheers, daveac

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     Monday, March 10 2008 @ 10:29 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Louis]
    If she was dead set on tying the knot on that day, fine. They could have done it as a private wedding and postpone the family/friends ceremony to a future date when she would not be showing.

    Cheers,
    Louis

    No offense, Louis, but ... ever planned a wedding?

    It's months of hard work, negotiating with planners, relatives, photographers, it's a major confluence of disparate elements, and just changing it on the fly is not something that will ever happen.

    Not to mention, I think it was made pretty clear that the sudden hormonal influx Gwen was experiencing, what with becoming very recently and very suddenly pregnant, was seriously affecting her judgement.

    With that said, and knowing what she knew at the time, I still think she should have been wary of a friend entering the room alone.

    Still fun though.

    -M-

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