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     Friday, November 03 2006 @ 12:18 PM EST
    I was watching this story again today for the first time in probably a decade, and was very suprised that the Cybermen have no processing on their voices. Does anyone know why this might be?
    I absolutely love this story. The whole first Tom Baker season is among my all time favorites.

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     Friday, November 03 2006 @ 12:22 PM EST
    I always thought the cybermen showed too much emotion in that story ("you've riled him Doctor").

    I watched Destiny Of The Daleks recently and Davros didn't have any processing on his voice in that story either.

    Didn't sound good though Confused

    If half the art of survival is running away, the other half is knowing when to keep a straight face.
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     Friday, November 03 2006 @ 02:46 PM EST
    Because the rule with Cybermen is that there are no rules with Cybermen.

    It's shameful that Davis and Pedler get royalties from their use. At the end of the day, all they really invented was a name. The concept of the Cybermen is an anthropomorphic robot with a human interior. Everything else is an optional extra. Not only are they a direct rip-off of the Daleks, they're pretty much a rip-off of Metropolis, The Wizard of Oz and a whole string of similar creatures from pulp science fiction of the 1950s.

    The fact that their background was not more plausibly nailed down is why there's really not any standardization of appearance or motivation through the years. The concept of a "tenth planet" in this solar system is largely why they are the most overrated species in the history of popular science fiction. How do you make that work when it's so evidently untrue? There has to be something bordering plausibility with any science fiction/fantasy idea. The Cybermen aren't just missing emotions. They've got no verisimilitude, either.

    They get by purely on appearance. Thus, they're never the same twice. The sooner people wake up to the fact that there is no genuine substance to Cybermen, the sooner they can take their rightful place as a third-tier villain. Dramatically, they are infinitely inferior to others far more compelling, if less used, like the Silurians and the Zygons.

    They are a testament to the power of all those people who come late in the credit roll, not to the genius of the writer. Pedler and Davis are, in my opinion, thieves—or at the very least, among the luckiest sonsa*censored*es on the planet.

    "I think of myself as ambitious in casting terms, and I know that Bonnie [Langford] has the potential to make the part totally unirritating . . ." — JNT, 1986
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     Friday, November 03 2006 @ 03:22 PM EST
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    yeah, but to me, they're FUN. I always check my disbelief at the door anyway when I am watching Doctor Who. If you don't, you'll probably be driven nuts by the contradictions and implausibilities and impossibilities (see the thread "Tardis Interior") but that's also where a lot of the charm is for me.
    I asbolutely love the Vogans in this story, their look, etc. By the way, I wonder if Douglas Adams meant to create a name so close to Vogans when he created the Vogons. I digress.

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     Sunday, December 10 2006 @ 06:06 PM EST
    There is actually a ring modulator effect to the voice, it's just very slight.

    I think the voice in tomb of the cybermen is my favorite so far. The way the emphasis of words was unnatural sounding, like what compture speech used to sound like, or sometimes still sounds like, was very creepy.

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     Thursday, June 07 2007 @ 12:48 AM EDT
    i loved how they talked when they first appered.

    "WE. ARE. THE. CYBERMEN! WE. WERE. ONCE. LIKE. YOU!

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     Friday, June 08 2007 @ 05:50 PM EDT
    Getting back to the question that hdutch007 asked in November 2006 before this thread went awry...I don't know why their voices were not processed for that story. Perhaps it was another in the line of budget cutting exercises the BBC always put the Doctor Who production team through every season.

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