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Doctor Whoovie
Registered: 04/26/06
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 Thursday, April 26 2007 @ 08:44 AM EDT |
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Without a doubt I put "Remembrance of the Daleks" of the Dalek's at the top of my list, with Curse of Fenric somewhere behind it (Let's face it, if your British (and a certain age) the presence of Nicholas Parsons, kind of blows all credability).
And what about Survival with starring a furry Lisa "Bernice Summerfield" Bowerman? Okay, it's pretty cr@p. |
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lucas
Registered: 07/16/06
Posts: 198
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| Thursday, April 26 2007 @ 10:32 AM EDT |
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| [Quote by: DarthSkeptical] "Remembrance", in particular, makes my skin crawl. It implies the First Doctor was an entire fool, makes a cliffhanger out of Daleks, pardon-me-as-I-yawn flying, has Ace hitting Daleks with a baseball bat, and has McCoy playing arch-butch. |
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Hey, to be fair, we may have seen thousands of Daleks flying in the series these days, and even seen thousands flying in the comics back in the day of the classic series, but I remember watching Remembrance as a teenager on its original broadcast and being so excited when the Dalek started hovering up the stairs at the end of Ep 1, destroying 20 years of Dalek-stairway jokes in one fell swoop. It's a great cliffhanger.
But my sentimental favourite would probably have to be Greatest Show In The Galaxy. Like a lot of McCoy stories, it doesn't stand up too well to a viewing with older eyes, but despite its shortcomings it's still a nice concept and I still find the Chief Clown extremely menacing and creepy all these years later. One of my very favourite Who villains... |
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JeffL
Registered: 03/11/06
Posts: 177
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| Sunday, April 29 2007 @ 11:45 AM EDT |
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"Greatest SHow in the Galaxy" is okay. It's not a favorite of mine but it has some great moments such as the werewolf traveling companion of the pompous space explorer (whose name slips my mind).
The problem with that one and with so many McCoy stories is that there are unneccesary characters that do nothing but fill space rather than move the plot along.
Seriously, do you think the story would be damaged if they removed all the scenes with that cranky woman street vendor? They could have gotten rid of all those scenes and the story would have still held up, probably even better because there would be more time to better explore the Gods of Ragnaroth or whatever they were called. |
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DarthSkeptical
Registered: 03/11/06
Posts: 1129
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| Sunday, April 29 2007 @ 03:38 PM EDT |
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[Quote by: lucas] | [Quote by: DarthSkeptical] "Remembrance", in particular, makes my skin crawl. It implies the First Doctor was an entire fool, makes a cliffhanger out of Daleks, pardon-me-as-I-yawn flying, has Ace hitting Daleks with a baseball bat, and has McCoy playing arch-butch. |
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Hey, to be fair, we may have seen thousands of Daleks flying in the series these days, and even seen thousands flying in the comics back in the day of the classic series, but I remember watching Remembrance as a teenager on its original broadcast and being so excited when the Dalek started hovering up the stairs at the end of Ep 1, destroying 20 years of Dalek-stairway jokes in one fell swoop. It's a great cliffhanger.
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| | I think you hit the nail on the head when you mention the comics, written as they were by the Daleks' effective co-creator, David Whitaker. It was already a demonstrated power, and had been since the TV Century 21 run of comics back that started when Hartnell was the current Doctor. It was already well understood that Daleks could fly, but not on a BBC budget. The cliffhanger, though, made it seem as though that seeing one Dalek ascend a short staircase was an added power we weren't expecting. But quite the reverse was true. If it didn't damn well get up the stairs, then it wasn't a Dalek. The classic series had cleverly gotten around the issue by generally not putting the Daleks in situations where their budgetary shortcomings would be bleedingly obvious. But that doesn't make "Remembrance" any more impressive than filming cars stopping for a pedestrian in a crosswalk. |
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"I think of myself as ambitious in casting terms, and I know that Bonnie [Langford] has the potential to make the part totally unirritating . . ." — JNT, 1986
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mindless
Registered: 07/25/06
Posts: 50
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| Sunday, April 29 2007 @ 05:26 PM EDT |
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ive recently just had a massive re-evaluation of the mccoy era, and i actually think it's one of the most uniquely odd of the classic series. due to the direction that JNT was told to take the show in, it ended up having a late 80's almost CBBC feel - you could have totally imagined watching some of these episodes between chucklevision and newsround for instance. very campy in places, and wonderfully dark in others with loads of weird eccentric characters. if i was to pick my favourites:
paradise towers
the happiness patrol
remembrance of the daleks (the story isn't as strong as i used to believe it was, but it's saved by some great moments)
silver nemesis
the greatest show in the galaxy
battlefield
curse of fenric
ghost light
survival
there are actually more stories that i enjoy than those which i don't, which is definately different to how i used to perceive that era!
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geekweekFL
Registered: 04/23/07
Posts: 46
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| Sunday, April 29 2007 @ 08:58 PM EDT |
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| ghost light is beautifully shot, but my favorite is Batlefield. you cant beat the brigadier |
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"I've seen whole armies turn and run away. And he'd just swagger off back to his TARDIS and open the doors with a snap of his fingers. The Doctor in the TARDIS.
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geekweekFL
Registered: 04/23/07
Posts: 46
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| Sunday, April 29 2007 @ 08:59 PM EDT |
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| i just can't type today, sorry "battlefield" |
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"I've seen whole armies turn and run away. And he'd just swagger off back to his TARDIS and open the doors with a snap of his fingers. The Doctor in the TARDIS.
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lucas
Registered: 07/16/06
Posts: 198
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| Monday, April 30 2007 @ 06:38 AM EDT |
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[Quote by: JeffL] "Greatest SHow in the Galaxy" is okay. ...
Seriously, do you think the story would be damaged if they removed all the scenes with that cranky woman street vendor? |
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Agreed. I'm always tempted to turn off the video by midway through that woman's second scene, and there's still a whole episode of her still to come after that. Torture.
But at least you still get killer clowns, norse gods, a very peculiar & compelling meloncholy tone with the kites constantly following Bellboy and Flowerchild, and a lovely, lovely shot at the end with the circus tent exploding in the background as the Doctor calmly walks away. |
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jeramsey1184
Registered: 02/17/08
Posts: 2
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| Tuesday, February 19 2008 @ 11:35 AM EST |
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| I must cast my vote for Curse of Fenric as well. I love the relationship between the Doctor and Ace. It was such a lovely, father-daughter bond, and the end of this episode is wonderful and devestating keeping that in mind. Happiness Patrol is another one I really like as is Remembrance of the Daleks. I love McCoy's portrayal of the Doctor-he had this great dark edge, balanced with such affection for Ace that it made him a really complex character. |
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Fairport
Registered: 06/25/07
Posts: 183
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| Sunday, March 02 2008 @ 02:05 AM EST |
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Here are my favorites:
Best story (television) - Remembrance of the Daleks
Best story (Big Finish) - The Harvest
Both have amazing performances from the Legendary Aldred! *whistles quietly just before running out of the room shouting "don't hit me"*  |
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daveac
Registered: 04/12/06
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| Sunday, March 02 2008 @ 09:19 AM EST |
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| [Quote by: gackt] im gonna have to add another vote for 'curse of fenric' |
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Another 'me too' post.
Cheers, daveac |
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jaki bruja
Registered: 02/18/08
Posts: 8
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| Sunday, March 02 2008 @ 10:26 AM EST |
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curse of...,although i ain't seen the others since the original run & i haven't heard many of the big finish but they seem really good from what i can gather.
the vamps were really well done for such a lousy budget,that fascist/undead possession metaphor clinched it..reminded me of alot of the local yokels near my old area hertfordshire/essex!
respect to alan turing,a genuine hero!...r.i.p. bra' |
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Dalek X
Registered: 04/27/08
Posts: 8
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| Sunday, April 27 2008 @ 03:20 PM EDT |
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I'd have to say Survival is best. I quite like it. Mainly because it has the Master in it, and I absolutely love the Mastr, I think he's one of the best villains ever. I also like Sylvestor's little speech at the end of Part 3. Fantastic episode!
BTW: This is my first post here. |
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Chase
Registered: 03/25/08
Posts: 505
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| Sunday, April 27 2008 @ 03:43 PM EDT |
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Tough question: it's between TIME AND THE RANI, PARADISE TOWERS, HAPPINESS PATROL, SILVER NEMESIS and DRAGONFIRE. Oh, wait, this for the best MCCoy story: oh let's see: GREATEST SHOW IN THE GALAXY probably. They ALL had problems. SURVIVAL was pretty good, the Dalek story part one was excellent but after that...I'm quite partial to DELTA AND THE BANNERMEN for some reason.
I used to HATE HATE HATE Battlefield, Curse of Fenric, and Ghostlight for their silliness, their throw everything in but the kitchen sink and their illogical plotlines and unlistenable dialog but I've since grown to like them in some way(s).
Best? I'd have to say GREATEST SHOW and DELTA. |
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