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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 01:57 AM EDT
    I would say that I'd love to see another Doctor Who television movie made.

    However, I don't think I want them to address the Time War in it at all. I love the idea of exploring another 8th Doctor story just to get a little more screen time for McGann.

    Then after that (somewhere down the road in say series 5 or so) we should have a flashback episode to clear up the Time War mystery co-starring McGann's Doctor.

    There could be a three Doctor story here without the three Doctors meeting like in the past. Just have the episode start out with Tennant's Doctor recalling the story to someone (perhaps the Doctor-light episode for that year). Then switch to 8th Doctor in the Time War, and after nearly dying, we see him regenerate into Eccleston's Doctor to finally do whatever it is he does to destroy the Daleks.

    I know, I'm just dreaming here, but that's what I'd like to see.

    Glenn a.k.a. "The 11th Doctor"
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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 02:58 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  The 11th Doctor] I would say that I'd love to see another Doctor Who television movie made.

    However, I don't think I want them to address the Time War in it at all. I love the idea of exploring another 8th Doctor story just to get a little more screen time for McGann.

    Then after that (somewhere down the road in say series 5 or so) we should have a flashback episode to clear up the Time War mystery co-starring McGann's Doctor.

    There could be a three Doctor story here without the three Doctors meeting like in the past. Just have the episode start out with Tennant's Doctor recalling the story to someone (perhaps the Doctor-light episode for that year). Then switch to 8th Doctor in the Time War, and after nearly dying, we see him regenerate into Eccleston's Doctor to finally do whatever it is he does to destroy the Daleks.

    I know, I'm just dreaming here, but that's what I'd like to see.


    There's nothing wrong with dreaming, I just don't believe it'll ever happen if for no other reason than I doubt Eccleston will want to reprise his Doctor, especially for a brief regeneration scene and I also think the concept of the Time War is just too big for TV.

    However I'd love to see more of McGann's doctor - if they are having another Doctorless type episode next season I'd love to see a flashback episode with McGann.

    I just had an insane thought, we all assume Eccleston was the Ninth Doctor because he was the Ninth actor to officially play the part ( poor Richard E Grant should get a proper go at the role one day ).

    According to The Sound of Drums the Timelords resurrected The Master as a Warrior in a potential time war - who's to say that the Doctor is still on his original set of regenerations - since we know he was active in the time war he may not be limited to 12 regenerations anymore ( nor the new Master for that matter ) so they may well have been more than one incarnation between McGann's and Eccleston's Doctor.

    I'll probably realise exactly why this idea is silly later on.

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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 08:28 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  seanhuxter] I'd love to see it.

    I think that McGann is the right Doctor to go through the Time War. If we can get a movie that tells the untold story of the Time War with McGann taking on the older style Daleks which sometime during the movie show the development of the new Dalek look, and what happens during the Time War (the Face of Boe would have to make an appearance as a younger face) it would be quite cool.

    Also, if it ended with McGann transforming into Eccleston, the bridge between old and new would be complete.

    -M-


    It's always seemed to me that McGann's regeneration is not linked to the Time War (at least not directly so). I meant to send in a Podshock voicemail about this, but now that we're talking about it, I'll throw my theory in here.

    I tender two pieces of evidence, which need to be interpreted in combination:

    (1) In "Rose", 9th Doc looks in the mirror and flicks at his ears as if he's inspecting his face for the first time, which suggests he's regenerated only very recently (or else spent an awfully long time away from reflective surfaces...!)

    (2) As "dark" and mentally scarred by the Time War as 9th Doc may be, he's still far more chipper than I'd suggest you would be if your planet and entire race had only just been destroyed. This leads me to conclude that some time has passed since the end of the Time War. Obviously the war is still an open wound for him, but he's had at least enough time to regroup and set about a new life as the last lonely Timelord.

    If both those facts stand up, then that would mean 8th Doc fought the entire Time War, and regenerated at least a fair while after it.

    Which opens up so many juicier possibilities, in my book. The 9th Doctor is still tortured some time after the War's conclusion, so imagine how much darker the Doctor's mood must have been in the immediate aftermath...? McGann's Doctor was so youthful and enthusiastic, and the Time War would quite probably have changed his character dramatically - torn that innocence and idealism away. Indeed, he may not only have been mentally scarred but physically scarred: RTD's piece on the Time War in the 2006 Annual talks about a "fearsome explosion" and "a solitary survivor walking from the wreckage" - imagine McGann's Doctor stumbling out of that explosion, battered, broken, maybe even that "long flowing hair" everyone always goes on about burnt to a cinder...?

    I think there is plenty of room for stories of a much dark, post-Time War 8th Doctor - effectively Doctor 8-and-a-half. (From memory, the Judge Dredd comics did a similar thing at one stage, when they had a continuing story of a mysterious scarred traveller, who was much later revealed to be Judge Dredd in his old age, after he had been exiled to the Badlands...) Anyway, I think it would be very cool.

    When the last BBC7 audio stories were announced, I thought they said that the stories were going to take us up to the 8th Doctor's regeneration, which seemed to blow my theory out of the water. But, while I haven't had a chance to listen to those stories yet, I haven't come across any chat online suggesting they actually followed through on that, so maybe there's still room for all these possibilities...?

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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 09:40 AM EDT
    [Quote  by:  lucas](1) In "Rose", 9th Doc looks in the mirror and flicks at his ears as if he's inspecting his face for the first time, which suggests he's regenerated only very recently (or else spent an awfully long time away from reflective surfaces...!)
    But also remember in "Rose", when she goes to meet Clive, he show her photos of The Doctor from the JFK assassination, Titanic launch, etc...(clearly the Eccleston regeneration if I remember correctly), which proves that he's been to Earth several times before the events of "Rose", and it's probably safe to say he's been to other worlds, too, during that span. So, the destruction of Gallifrey and/or his regeneration occurred a while before. I've always felt that the McGann-Eccleston regeneration came as a result of the destruction of Gallifrey and the Time Lords, but that's just a hunch, and I suppose we'll never know until RTD and crew decide to show us...

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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 06:11 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  sgb1975]
    [Quote  by:  lucas](1) In "Rose", 9th Doc looks in the mirror and flicks at his ears as if he's inspecting his face for the first time, which suggests he's regenerated only very recently (or else spent an awfully long time away from reflective surfaces...!)
    But also remember in "Rose", when she goes to meet Clive, he show her photos of The Doctor from the JFK assassination, Titanic launch, etc...(clearly the Eccleston regeneration if I remember correctly), which proves that he's been to Earth several times before the events of "Rose", and it's probably safe to say he's been to other worlds, too, during that span. So, the destruction of Gallifrey and/or his regeneration occurred a while before. I've always felt that the McGann-Eccleston regeneration came as a result of the destruction of Gallifrey and the Time Lords, but that's just a hunch, and I suppose we'll never know until RTD and crew decide to show us...


    Of course the problem with time travel is that while Clive had photographic evidence of Eccleston's Doctor being at those events it's possible that Eccleston's Doctor hadn't been there yet - kind of like the Tennant's Doctor and the Queen at the end of The Shakespeare Code - she knew him but he hadn't met her yet.

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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 06:33 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  Shayne_A]
    [Quote  by:  sgb1975]
    [Quote  by:  lucas](1) In "Rose", 9th Doc looks in the mirror and flicks at his ears as if he's inspecting his face for the first time, which suggests he's regenerated only very recently (or else spent an awfully long time away from reflective surfaces...!)
    But also remember in "Rose", when she goes to meet Clive, he show her photos of The Doctor from the JFK assassination, Titanic launch, etc...(clearly the Eccleston regeneration if I remember correctly), which proves that he's been to Earth several times before the events of "Rose", and it's probably safe to say he's been to other worlds, too, during that span. So, the destruction of Gallifrey and/or his regeneration occurred a while before. I've always felt that the McGann-Eccleston regeneration came as a result of the destruction of Gallifrey and the Time Lords, but that's just a hunch, and I suppose we'll never know until RTD and crew decide to show us...


    Of course the problem with time travel is that while Clive had photographic evidence of Eccleston's Doctor being at those events it's possible that Eccleston's Doctor hadn't been there yet - kind of like the Tennant's Doctor and the Queen at the end of The Shakespeare Code - she knew him but he hadn't met her yet.


    A tricky point. If we take the 'City of Death' POV then we have to allow that the Doctor must interveen before the event. But 'Blink' and 'The Shakespeare Code' show another coarse of events.

    Perhaps at the end of Rose when the Doctor leaves, before he comes back he visits the events in Clive's archives.

    The Wibbly-Wobbly nature of time continues on, and we love that both sides are equally valid Wink .

    Cheers,
    Mike M.

    I'm a Time Traveler, I point and laugh at archaeologist.
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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 07:41 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  sgb1975]
    [Quote  by:  lucas](1) In "Rose", 9th Doc looks in the mirror and flicks at his ears as if he's inspecting his face for the first time, which suggests he's regenerated only very recently (or else spent an awfully long time away from reflective surfaces...!)
    But also remember in "Rose", when she goes to meet Clive, he show her photos of The Doctor from the JFK assassination, Titanic launch, etc...(clearly the Eccleston regeneration if I remember correctly), which proves that he's been to Earth several times before the events of "Rose", and it's probably safe to say he's been to other worlds, too, during that span.


    It doesn't necessarily follow that just because Clive had the images of the Doctor at those locations that the Doctor we meet at the beginning of Rose has already been there. It could quite easily be that he visits those events at some point between Rose and Bad Wolf in some off-screen adventure.

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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 08:30 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  merlin_mccarley]
    [Quote  by:  Shayne_A]
    [Quote  by:  sgb1975]
    [Quote  by:  lucas](1) In "Rose", 9th Doc looks in the mirror and flicks at his ears as if he's inspecting his face for the first time, which suggests he's regenerated only very recently (or else spent an awfully long time away from reflective surfaces...!)
    But also remember in "Rose", when she goes to meet Clive, he show her photos of The Doctor from the JFK assassination, Titanic launch, etc...(clearly the Eccleston regeneration if I remember correctly), which proves that he's been to Earth several times before the events of "Rose", and it's probably safe to say he's been to other worlds, too, during that span. So, the destruction of Gallifrey and/or his regeneration occurred a while before. I've always felt that the McGann-Eccleston regeneration came as a result of the destruction of Gallifrey and the Time Lords, but that's just a hunch, and I suppose we'll never know until RTD and crew decide to show us...


    Of course the problem with time travel is that while Clive had photographic evidence of Eccleston's Doctor being at those events it's possible that Eccleston's Doctor hadn't been there yet - kind of like the Tennant's Doctor and the Queen at the end of The Shakespeare Code - she knew him but he hadn't met her yet.


    A tricky point. If we take the 'City of Death' POV then we have to allow that the Doctor must interveen before the event. But 'Blink' and 'The Shakespeare Code' show another coarse of events.

    Perhaps at the end of Rose when the Doctor leaves, before he comes back he visits the events in Clive's archives.

    The Wibbly-Wobbly nature of time continues on, and we love that both sides are equally valid Wink .

    Cheers,
    Mike M.


    It would've been cool if Rose was in one of the pictures as well but just because she wasn't dosen't mean she wasn't there - it's pretty clearly established that we haven't seen every adventure of either the Eccleston's or Tennant's Doctors.

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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 08:32 PM EDT
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    [Quote  by:  sgb1975]
    [Quote  by:  lucas](1) In "Rose", 9th Doc looks in the mirror and flicks at his ears as if he's inspecting his face for the first time, which suggests he's regenerated only very recently (or else spent an awfully long time away from reflective surfaces...!)
    But also remember in "Rose", when she goes to meet Clive, he show her photos of The Doctor from the JFK assassination, Titanic launch, etc...(clearly the Eccleston regeneration if I remember correctly), which proves that he's been to Earth several times before the events of "Rose", and it's probably safe to say he's been to other worlds, too, during that span.


    It doesn't necessarily follow that just because Clive had the images of the Doctor at those locations that the Doctor we meet at the beginning of Rose has already been there. It could quite easily be that he visits those events at some point between Rose and Bad Wolf in some off-screen adventure.


    My thought exactly !

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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 08:37 PM EDT
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    [Quote  by:  merlin_mccarley]
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    [Quote  by:  sgb1975]
    [Quote  by:  lucas](1) In "Rose", 9th Doc looks in the mirror and flicks at his ears as if he's inspecting his face for the first time, which suggests he's regenerated only very recently (or else spent an awfully long time away from reflective surfaces...!)
    But also remember in "Rose", when she goes to meet Clive, he show her photos of The Doctor from the JFK assassination, Titanic launch, etc...(clearly the Eccleston regeneration if I remember correctly), which proves that he's been to Earth several times before the events of "Rose", and it's probably safe to say he's been to other worlds, too, during that span. So, the destruction of Gallifrey and/or his regeneration occurred a while before. I've always felt that the McGann-Eccleston regeneration came as a result of the destruction of Gallifrey and the Time Lords, but that's just a hunch, and I suppose we'll never know until RTD and crew decide to show us...


    Of course the problem with time travel is that while Clive had photographic evidence of Eccleston's Doctor being at those events it's possible that Eccleston's Doctor hadn't been there yet - kind of like the Tennant's Doctor and the Queen at the end of The Shakespeare Code - she knew him but he hadn't met her yet.


    A tricky point. If we take the 'City of Death' POV then we have to allow that the Doctor must interveen before the event. But 'Blink' and 'The Shakespeare Code' show another coarse of events.

    Perhaps at the end of Rose when the Doctor leaves, before he comes back he visits the events in Clive's archives.

    The Wibbly-Wobbly nature of time continues on, and we love that both sides are equally valid Wink .

    Cheers,
    Mike M.


    It would've been cool if Rose was in one of the pictures as well but just because she wasn't dosen't mean she wasn't there - it's pretty clearly established that we haven't seen every adventure of either the Eccleston's or Tennant's Doctors.


    Never said otherwise, just theorising same as you.

    I'm a Time Traveler, I point and laugh at archaeologist.
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     Wednesday, June 27 2007 @ 08:46 PM EDT
    [Quote  by:  merlin_mccarley]
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    [Quote  by:  merlin_mccarley]
    [Quote  by:  Shayne_A]
    [Quote  by:  sgb1975]
    [Quote  by:  lucas](1) In "Rose", 9th Doc looks in the mirror and flicks at his ears as if he's inspecting his face for the first time, which suggests he's regenerated only very recently (or else spent an awfully long time away from reflective surfaces...!)
    But also remember in "Rose", when she goes to meet Clive, he show her photos of The Doctor from the JFK assassination, Titanic launch, etc...(clearly the Eccleston regeneration if I remember correctly), which proves that he's been to Earth several times before the events of "Rose", and it's probably safe to say he's been to other worlds, too, during that span. So, the destruction of Gallifrey and/or his regeneration occurred a while before. I've always felt that the McGann-Eccleston regeneration came as a result of the destruction of Gallifrey and the Time Lords, but that's just a hunch, and I suppose we'll never know until RTD and crew decide to show us...


    Of course the problem with time travel is that while Clive had photographic evidence of Eccleston's Doctor being at those events it's possible that Eccleston's Doctor hadn't been there yet - kind of like the Tennant's Doctor and the Queen at the end of The Shakespeare Code - she knew him but he hadn't met her yet.


    A tricky point. If we take the 'City of Death' POV then we have to allow that the Doctor must interveen before the event. But 'Blink' and 'The Shakespeare Code' show another coarse of events.

    Perhaps at the end of Rose when the Doctor leaves, before he comes back he visits the events in Clive's archives.

    The Wibbly-Wobbly nature of time continues on, and we love that both sides are equally valid Wink .

    Cheers,
    Mike M.


    It would've been cool if Rose was in one of the pictures as well but just because she wasn't dosen't mean she wasn't there - it's pretty clearly established that we haven't seen every adventure of either the Eccleston's or Tennant's Doctors.


    Never said otherwise, just theorising same as you.

    Boy it's easy to spend far too much time thinking about this sort of thing but I sure find it interesting as well as various peoples takes on the whole time travel situation - perhaps I've been geeking out a little too much.

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