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daveac
Registered: 04/12/06
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 Tuesday, March 04 2008 @ 01:04 PM EST |
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[Quote by: seanhuxter]
Yeah, I thought that was stupid too. If he can talk, he's forcing air out of his lungs. That almost lost me, because it was so unrealistic. Despite the fact that a walking dead body isn't very realistic, once you set up the rules in the story, it's possible. But to show him clearly talking and breathing (and panting) and then pretending he can't do mouth-to-mouth, is just laziness.
I'm not sure I'm liking where this is going. Having Jack be immortal is one thing, regenerating after any injury, but having Owen immortal without the ability to even heal a cut, is another entirely. For him, it's only going to be a slow degeneration until he's an immobile mass of broken bones and zombified flesh.
I thought the device they found would reverse the effects. Something's got to, otherwise... what? What's the point of having him continue to "live"?
Sean.
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Not posting - just showing your missing post.
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sarahbot
Registered: 02/06/08
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| Wednesday, March 05 2008 @ 10:38 AM EST |
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| This just goes back to Torchwood as Buffy. Whedon&co. had the exact same problems with their vampires. They can't give mouth-to-mouth, they don't bleed, etc., but that doesn't explain how they can speak or have sex (no blood flow?). You'd think with all their cribbing the Torchwood powers that be could have improved on problems in the original material that's obviously strongly influential. |
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Tardis-Knight
Registered: 02/11/07
Posts: 618
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| Wednesday, March 05 2008 @ 07:06 PM EST |
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I thought this was crap. I was so into this series at the outset, but the whole Owen nonsense is really starting to grate with me.
I know it's science fiction, and therefore anything goes - but I don't like this is he/isn't he stuff. We know he is - but he's not. Get it? Personally I just don't.
Just my opinion!
(although I did actually like the whole jumper inter-woven storyline, if that's not a paradox in itself)
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Nothing dies of old age on Skaro!
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Linquel
Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 729
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| Monday, March 24 2008 @ 07:54 AM EDT |
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| [Quote by: rocko] OK- never mind that he is (un)dead, but if Owen can talk he can certainly blow air into someone's lungs! Did anyone else notice how he was panting while mourning the fact that he doesn't breathe??? I was just totally confused. |
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I'm way behind on my Torchwood watching, but I finally watched Day in the Death (mostly). This comment cracked me up, because I had the same problem when watching Buffy. In the last ep of season 1, Buffy is killed by the Master and Xander and Angel find her. Angel says he can't do mouth-to-mouth because he doesn't breath. Yet all the vamps can talk. Hell, Spike even smokes. If anything, a vamp doing mouth-to-mouth is better since his/her body won't take any of the oxygen out. It would be like using one of those breathing bag things.
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| [Quote by: sarahbot] This just goes back to Torchwood as Buffy. Whedon&co. had the exact same problems with their vampires. They can't give mouth-to-mouth, they don't bleed, etc., but that doesn't explain how they can speak or have sex (no blood flow?). You'd think with all their cribbing the Torchwood powers that be could have improved on problems in the original material that's obviously strongly influential. |
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Doh...I really need to start reading the whole thread before posting.
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I'm going "Full Circle" and putting my avatar back to what it was when I first joined. :)
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petricat
Registered: 05/29/06
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| Saturday, March 29 2008 @ 02:25 PM EDT |
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How Owen can talk and yet not be breathing
I was talking about this "error" with my 15 year old. Here's his explanation in a nutshell.
Air still enters Owen's body voluntarily. If it didn't it would create a vacuum. Since his muscles still work (he has to exercise to keep them from atrophying) then when his muscles in his diaphragm contract it pushes the air over his vocal chords making it possible for him to talk. Techinically it would be a soft voice (think the bellows scene in The Princess Bride when Westley is mostly dead and Miracle Max pumps him with air and then pushes on his diaphragm to find out why he wants to live)
Again this is my 15 year old's explanation. |
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tarashnat
Registered: 08/17/05
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| Saturday, March 29 2008 @ 02:42 PM EDT |
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Which should make him better at mouth to mouth as he won't be generating CO2 and be able to get more oxygen into the other person?!?
Total lack of either common sense or understanding of physics/chemistry in most drama today... |
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Daleks don't accept apologies! YOU WILL BE EXTERMINATED!
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Magpie
Registered: 06/29/06
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| Wednesday, April 09 2008 @ 03:02 PM EDT |
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Yes, I have to admit, like the rest of you I was like "How is he speaking if he can't get any air in!" What a crock!
Funny how these things can irk a viewer since ultimately the entire show is fantasy.
I remember once being really annoyed about a "news of the weird" article about a "human skull with horns on it." The fact that a human skull might have horns on it seemed less offensive to me than these hacks trying to say vikings had horns on their helmets! What rubbish. hehe |
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If Worzel Gummidge and the Third Doctor had a fist fight - who would win?
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