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     Monday, November 03 2008 @ 04:13 PM EST
    I have some thoughts on Patterson Joseph being the Doctor and I'm curious what others think.

    Although it was cut from the 'Christmas Invasion' many are aware that the 10th Doctor's accent comes from close association to Rose during his 9th Incarnation.

    That being said, if you're a fan of the 8th Doctor BBC7 adventures with the Doctor and Lucie Miller, you may believe (like me) that the 9th Doctor got HIS accent from his association with Lucie during his 8th incarnation. (She's from the North!)

    Now, I COULD argue that the Doctor's change in skin pigmentation could have something to do with his association with Martha and/or Mickey when he regenerates (If Joseph gets the role).

    Here's my concern, wouldn't essentially being 'Black' or of 'African descent' make it harder for him to travel freely in certain periods in history? Martha mentioned something similar in the beginning of the Shakespeare Code, didn't she? That being said, does that present a problem that the writers will ignore or does it present a challenge to them to overcome creatively? (I'm hoping the latter!)

    I'm curious what your thoughts are on this.

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     Tuesday, November 04 2008 @ 02:06 AM EST
    That's a good thought.
    How different would the Idiots Lantern have been if the Doctor were black? Certainly his influence over the family (I forget the name) would be lessened, especially with the father. Then again the writers largely ignored the issue, to the good, in Daleks in Manhattan.
    Personally I think it would do the show good to have it's perceptions shaken up. I thought Patterson Joseph would make a good Doc way back when I first saw him in Neverwhere.

    Bollocks...sir.
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     Tuesday, November 04 2008 @ 08:47 AM EST
    Thats a big leap from accents to genetics. Accents can easily change for anyone depending on where we live and given enough time to pick them up, but we aren't born genetically predisposed to an accent.

    Picking up someones genetic traits would give the Doctor an almost chameleon like quality which I think takes things a bit too far for the character.

    It is much easier to assume that he would pick up an accent, if he travels with someone rather than picking up a genetic trait.

    I would hope they would stay consistent with the character. If they can change the character too much, why not change the gender as well?

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     Wednesday, November 05 2008 @ 08:16 PM EST
    [Quote  by:  indiana_brian] Thats a big leap from accents to genetics. Accents can easily change for anyone depending on where we live and given enough time to pick them up, but we aren't born genetically predisposed to an accent.

    Picking up someones genetic traits would give the Doctor an almost chameleon like quality which I think takes things a bit too far for the character.

    It is much easier to assume that he would pick up an accent, if he travels with someone rather than picking up a genetic trait.

    I would hope they would stay consistent with the character. If they can change the character too much, why not change the gender as well?


    Well, I personally agree with you in that regard, as well as with the Gender issue when it's been suggested that the Doctor become a female. No, I say! There's no precedent that says a Time Lord can change gender, we've seen female Gallifreyans and male, never any mention of "Oh! You're a woman this time!" or "I see you decided to see what it's like to be male!" Rubbish I say, but that's just me.

    Romana, however, did show a chameleon like ability to change her skin tone while 'trying on regenerations' in the one episode when she went from Romana 1 to Romana 2.

    Personally, I like to think that the Doctor's regenerations have never been anything he could consciously control for whatever reason, so one doesn't physically stray too far from the other.

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     Thursday, November 06 2008 @ 09:00 AM EST
    Well that was deep wasn't it.

    What I said was... If the Doctor was letting the Tardis take him wherever for however many seasons that was, it would be more in his nature to let things happen randomly, rather than try to control and manipulate what goes on. But it was a lot funnier the first time.

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     Thursday, November 06 2008 @ 09:51 AM EST
    At first, Romana practically ridiculed The Doctor for not being as good a student as she was. There is the possibility that learning self-discipline and mental control is something that is taught at the Academy. We have also seen the Doctors body regrow a new hand in The Christmas Invasion, so there is apparently some flux in the bodies of Time Lords as they go through the regeneration process.

    The flux and better mental control would explain how Romana could alter her body during its regeneration. In the past, the Doctor was unconscious or near death during the regeneration and may have been too weak to affect its outcome. Whereas Romana seemed to initate one out of choice.

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