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  • LOST IN SPACE-the Hungry Sea review part one   5 years 15 weeks ago

    TO BE CONTINUED NEXT WEEK SAME TIME SAME CHANNEL

     

    ADDITIONAL NOTES: The musical cues during the water storm and the earthquake in the cave-city are very similar but occur in different places and have some other music--mostly from the listed sources--DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL, JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH, JASON AND THE ARGONAUTS, THE LAST WAGON, THE ENEMY BELOW, and possibly others. Maureen screams a great deal during the water storm in the Unaired Pilot Number One; there is also more water dumped onto the Chariot in that one. ENEMY BELOW music plays longer in the first unaired pilot. In the second, there are some quiet moments without music during sea ride just before the storm hits. The bang on the scope as John tells Judy to come up front is different in unaired pilot one. Will's fall into the trap door in Unaired Pilot Number Two has stock music that is heard in THE LOST CIVILIZATION and FOLLOW THE LEADER as well as many episodes of THE TIME TUNNEL and VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA (third and fourth season). Some Chariot music in Unaired Pilot number two is also heard in THE TIME TUNNEL-VISITORS FROM BEYOND THE STARS--all stock of Bernard Herrman music. VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA music by Paul Sawtell is heard as the Chariot encounters the Cyclops in unaired pilot number two. Both pilots use a diary insert over the filmed scenes whenever John writes in his logs in the year 2001 (almost 2002), Unaired One has them in longer than Two. Also in Two that is not in One is when John says, while narrating, "We are humbly grateful,"  just before and while he reads the Bible in the tropical jungle. And both unaired pilots contain a pull back from this scene of two aliens watching the Robinsons and Don (and the Bloop). The heads of the aliens seem similar to INVADERS FROM THE 5TH DIMENSION aliens but here, the aliens have bodies and mouths and different, more beak like noses. They are shorter than the INVADERS FROM THE 5TH DIMENSION. We also spot a lake behind the aliens, who seem to be watching from large stalks of brush--a swamp?   

    REVIEW: When we come to the end of this episode, we end the best five episode story arc ever in any show. LOST IN SPACE never recovered this expedition feeling, opting most of the time to have the family stay at the spaceship and allowing alien beings or Earth travelers to come to them...of course there were exceptions to this but not very many. The exploratory mission of these first five shows should have been repeated in different ways on other planets. Also--we never find out the secret of the civilization in the caves in the aired episode. THE HUNGRY SEA is enjoyable, again, on many levels: it creates friction between John and Don which allowed for some nice dramatic touches between the adults--for once in the series. This was lost as the first season waned away and by THE SPACE CROPPERS, the rest of the family aside from Will, Smith, and the Robot were mere cameos or guests in their own show. The weather situation is fun as are the various setting up of camps along the way. Some of the Smith scenes may have gone on a bit too long but it proves how mean he could really be but by the end, he relents--perhaps from not wanting to be alone and not having a pilot to fly him back to Earth but there was something more in his voice, too. Maureen was correct when she said he sounded really worried---he was. After this, while being somewhat greedy and evil minded, he was never as evil as he was in these first five episodes. The special effects in THE HUNGRY SEA as well as the other four are splendid, movie quality. In fact, many movies do not have the quality these five episodes have. The character stuff between Don and John makes the whirlpool and storm sequence quite more interesting than it would have been without it (in the unaired pilots there is no friction between Don and John at all in this scene--its just a loose connection). The five episodes bravely used a great deal of footage from the unaired pilots---footage that was too good not to use--too special---and added to it by expanding the characters, setting them into situations that could have lasting effects. As good as both pilots are, THE RELUCTANT STOWAWAY, THE DERELICT, ISLAND IN THE SKY, THERE WERE GIANTS IN THE EARTH, and THE HUNGRY SEA are far better. Score wise, these five episodes, combined with WELCOME STRANGER, MY FRIEND MR. NOBODY, and INVADERS FROM THE 5TH DIMENSION are the best music science fiction-fantasy has to offer---aside from the excellent scores for LAND OF THE GIANTS. Superior in every way--every note deserves to be on its own CD for these eight episodes. Alas, it is not to be. The weather and orbit bits are a nice piece of fantasy even if unrealistic--a few days of this and the planet would probably be a disaster area and very unlivable.           

     

    NOTE: Since both unaired pilots are inferior to THE RELUCTANT STOWAWAY, THE DERELICT, ISLAND IN THE SKY, THERE WERE GIANTS IN THE EARTH, and THE HUNGRY SEA, I have decided to put both unaired pilots after these five episodes--since these used stock footage from both pilots---as for readers to be able to compare the unaired pilots to the much better versions seen in the episodes. Both pilots are important, however, because they give us some background not given in the aired episodes. There is less development of characters and situations, however in these unaired pilots.  

     

    UNAIRED PILOT NUMBER ONE

    The Jupiter II was originally called the Gemini 12 and could travel at 18412 miles per hour. The TV man commentator is the narrator, not Dick Tufeld. The countdown is started in this story at 6 minutes and 40 seconds. The credits start right away with DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL music. The Robinsons will stay in their suspended animation slumber for 98 years. Alpha Control mentions the Bermuda Tracking Station and an electronic brain on the spaceship Gemini 12. Dr John Robinson is seen on the screen over Alpha Control's main control area. He is a Professor of Astro Physics the University of Stellar Dynamics. With him for the first time that anyone other than an adult male passed the International Space Administration's grueling physical and emotional screening for intergalactic flight is his wife, Dr. Maureen Robinson, the distinguished biochemist of the New Mexico College of Space Medicine. We hear FANTASTIC VOYAGE movie sound effects quite loudly in this scene as the Robinsons are introduced and go right into their freezing tubes. I prefer the scenes in THE RELUCTANT STOWAWAY through THE HUNGRY SEA as it gives the Robinsons more dimension and character interplay and development. Their daughter, age 19 has rather heroically postponed a career in the musical comedy field for the next two centuries at the very least. Their son Will, who graduated from the Camdo Canyon School of Science at age 9---the highest average in the school's history. Penny, age 11, IQ 147, hobby: zoology. There is also a behind the freezing tube shot in this one and the unaired pilot two. Their assistant Dr. Donald West from the center for radio astronomy. Last year his theory about other planets and fitness for human habitation rocked the scientific community. The scenes are longer. They will be in limbo for a "lifetime"---98 years. The President makes his speech after they have been frozen, making what he says to them a bit...belated. Here, his speech is uninterrupted as it is for a few seconds in THE RELUCTANT STOWAWAY when Don turns on the screen in the Jupiter II. The liftoff of the spaceship is seen from the scanner at Alpha Control. We also see more window shots---the astrogater bubble rising and lowering, the galaxies at the window, the spaceship flying over clouds of Earth. Then a swirling mass at the window. There is a long shot and a very different exterior scene as the meteors rain down on the Jupiter II, 25 thousand miles per her at a diameter of 1000. Bernard Herrman music fills the unaired pilots, different takes of each musical cue but similar. This pilot has longer sequences. There is a close up of a Hot Wire Liquid Gas Channel device. It is mentioned the spaceship can regenerate its own controls. A voice from Alpha Control also mentions there is a heat fire behind all the controls in the spaceship. The ship ends up over a planet. We see the planet at the window---it has no cloud cover. It would have this more realistic cloud cover in the cliffhanger to THE DERELICT and in ISLAND IN THE SKY. "Alpha Control's final analysis on the Gemini 12's flight indicates unhappily that the spaceship has either been destroyed or must be presumed LOST IN SPACE. (Unaired Pilot Two now has the credits zoomed into our face with a loud rocket like take off whistle on the musical cue). There seem to be a few extra shots on the Ship

    Crash sequence.

    JOHN'S DIARY: December 3rd in the year 2001: None of us knows for sure how long we traveled in suspended animation. Our atomic clock indicates three and one half years but we're not positive. We do know for a fact that it is now six months since our landing on this unknown planet. Thank Heaven that we survived that terrible crash which completely disabled the spaceship. We are hopeful of its eventual repair and our ability to use it again. Meanwhile all goes reasonably well. We've established a base camp, domesticated some of the local animals and cultivated a small farm.

     

    Rocks are more craggy and abundant as Will chases an ostrich in extreme long shot. We see over the spaceship to larger rocks than used in the first season, the ship's canvass overhang, and the women. Will keeps calling the ostrich to come back here. It was supposed to have taken one of his electronic devices. Penny is under the table with Debbie the Bloop, a monkey like creature which makes squeaky noises, not bloops. Penny calls Will and the ostrich, "Children,"  and hugs Debbie, "Wait till father comes home."  Maureen says, "They were due back a half hour ago."  Judy asks, "You don't think anything happened?"  Maureen says, "Oh no of course not."  Penny plays with Debbie some more. John and Don are on the cliff side while werid music plays--music used in THE TIME TUNNEL-VISITORS FROM BEYOND THE STARS and some VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA third and fourth season episodes. It is obviously Bernard Herrman music. They check the instruments. As they do, music from BENEATH THE 12 MILE REEF is heard--this music is also heard later when Penny talks to the Bloop and the Spiked Turtle in this, the unaired pilot two and THERE WERE GIANTS IN THE EARTH. It seems John is aghast when he reads that the day after tomorrow it will fall far below zero--this is a different take from the one in THERE WERE GIANTS IN THE EARTH. There are many similar scenes  across this, the unaired pilot, and the first five episodes of LOST IN SPACE, some exact, some slightly different, some with dubbed in dialogue, some just trimmed short of scenes and dialogue. John tells Don, "It's moving day, Dr. West."  They go to check another gauge but find it wrecked in a giant footprint, one of many. There is no talk of the Robot here--Smith and the Robot are not in either unaired pilot. The cyclops first appears--we hear DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL music. They run. John yells, "Don!"  He does not in the THERE WERE GIANTS IN THE EARTH--although it might be that the soundtrack is too loud with music and roars--different roars in THERE WERE GIANTS--scarier ones in THERE. The roars here are heard  in a variation in THE SKY PIRATE by the glob thing. When Don and John go in the cave there is music from JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH and DAY. At the ship, Will works on the radio telescope. Pictures no sound. Maureen takes out the wash, we see the fence and ostriches. Will calls her in to look through the scope. She sees the giant. Will looks, "Holy cow! It is--a giant!"  Judy and Penny come up the ramp. Maureen looks again--no "Let me look again."  Judy gets upset and Maureen tells her to calm down, "Besides, there's nothing we can do about it now."  Will grabs the laser gun, "Oh yes there is!"  He runs out amid JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH--Lindbrook's abduction in the stagecoach music. Organ music when we see the Cyclops--also from JOURNEY. Will's belt clinks against the cliff rocks. As the giant shoves a tree in, John yells, "Lookout," which he may have in THERE but which couldn't really be heard as well. Music concludes from JOURNEY (the scene when the villain dies) as Will shoots the monster. It falls and then we switch musically to DAY THE EARTH music again. Will says, "Dad! Dad! I killed the giant. I kilt him!"  This is changed simply to "I did it! I did it!"  for THERE.

     

    The scene after is John rushing to kids to pack, "C'mon kids, keep moving. I want us out of here in the next five minutes."  This is changed in THERE to "C'mon kids, keep moving, we have to get out of here!" Maureen and Will's scene is the same. I've noticed a pile of wood by the spaceship door area. John's lift off seems longer and in a long shot. His flight up looks longer and the entire sequence on the flying belt is much longer. "I'll find her,"  he calls down to Maureen. In THERE he calls "Don't worry! I'll find her!" He flies up and then around a rock. We see a behind shot which is the same as the episode. We also see him pass a canyon which is longer. Close up on John as he looks at the canyon. Also a semi-side shot. Extreme long shot of John flying follows the semi side shot. Point of view shots follow--we see trackless desert ground passing beneath John. Another sideshot. The BENEATH THE 12 MILE REEF music plays throughout this and the rest of the sequence--ending when they get back to the Chariot. We see the same overhead shot of Penny on the turtle. Penny says, "Now we're all lost."  Debbie gets off her lap and moves away, "Hey come back here. We'd better stick together or none of us will  get home."  Debbie comes back and Penny calls her, "Good girl."  John hovers over the same spot, a two pronged rock jutting up behind him. He flies over hills and pointy rocks. He is higher up. Penny calls, "Daddy, Daddy," and it seems more times than in THERE. John lands. Their lift off is longer with a medium shot of all three. John asks, "How do you like it?"  Penny, "Oh, it's great."  "How's the Bloop?"  "Oh fine."  Then we see an extreme long shot of all three flying. They fly over rocks. Maureen and Will get in the Chariot. Don calls John, "Dr. Robinson,"  telling them John picked ten below zero as a deadline, "...but it will be us who's dead if we don't stick to it."  Judy throws her tantrum (and in the NO PLACE script picks up a gun at Don) but Maureen yells at her, "Oh Judy please stop it!"  Judy says, "We're not going without them!"  Maureen's line cut from THERE.

     

    After Penny, Debbie, and John return, the Chariot goes along as we hear some more werid music used on THE TIME TUNNEL and which sounds like it is from DAY. The Cyclops's growls are different from THERE. When they pass the dead Cyclops--after Don shoots it down with the unusual laser rifle--Debbie squeaks and bangs a bit longer. The whole "dead cyclops"  scene seems longer.

     

    Chariot drives on. John is play punching the monkey Debbie who was trying to touch John's face. We can also see the monkey wearing diapers, something which I really never took notice of in the aired episodes. Don is driving. Maureen asks, "I wonder how cold it is back at the spaceship now."  John says, "Too cold."  Don then announces, "Oh no,"  and mentions the boulders didn't do the power unit any good. Chariot sounds louder in the pilot but this could be the louder music used in THERE WERE GIANTS IN THE EARTH drowning out the Chariot sound. Will plays Greensleeves. The camp scene seems lighter but this might be the copy I saw. Penny's snoop report on Don and Judy is accompanied by the romance music from JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH. Right after this scene, in THERE, we saw a Chariot riding scene which looked like a daytime scene. In this  UNAIRED PILOT NUMBER ONE (and TWO) we see the camp scene end and the lightning scene begin right away. Don calls John Doc which is also used in the other versions including THERE. Upon entering the cave, Maureen asks, "What kind of a place is this?"  Penny says, "It..it looks like a big cave."  John says, "Let's take a look."  Don lights a flare and then gets the flashlights and Debbie. For some reason, while Don gets Debbie we hear Guy Williams's voice saying, "Debbie, come on, Debbie."  As the family passes webs, John looks back, "Everybody alright back there?"   There is more DAY music--creepy music which is used throughout LOST IN SPACE. It lasts longer here. Later, when Will and Penny are lost, Will falls through a trap door and we hear his yell, "Penny help!"  THERE doesn't seem to have his saying this but that might be, again, due to the louder music. Penny's scream at the mummy is louder here and she screams more times. When Don and Judy open the door to find the pair, Penny says, "Look Don!"  This is not in THERE. When the cave starts shaking, Don just yells, "Earthquake!!!"  In THERE, he yells "It's an earthquake!"  All the screaming in the quake sequence seems louder and more confusing...and louder...all at the same time. Don does not say, "Judy, stay close to Penny,"  here, nor does he say, "Don't be frightened! It'll be open in a minute!"  These are present in the unaired pilot two and THERE as well as in the teaser to THE HUNGRY SEA. Phew! It is easier to hear the dialogue in the unaired pilot number one. Maureen yells, "Push,"  as the others try to push open the block John cut out with his laser. This escape from the tomb room has more intense music--more so than in THERE and the UNAIRED PILOT NUMBER TWO. The sense of urgency is best here musically speaking. Not to say that the music in THERE was bad. It is far superior to all the music in the unaired pilots---but in this one short scene---it is more effective the way it was in the original pushing of the stone block.

     

    NOTE: All scenes of John's Diary are superimposed under the diary itself--and in both pilots these diary readings are the same except for four different words added to the last one in the unaired pilot number two. In comparing the unaired pilot one and the unaired pilot two, the diary scenes seem to last longer in some scenes but in other scenes the diary shots do not last as long. These diary superimposings and readings are removed from Chariot shots in THERE, THE HUNGRY SEA, and even in ISLAND IN THE SKY.

     

    JOHN'S DIARY: December 5th in the year 2001---the attack of the fearful lightning bolts followed by equally terrible earthquake frightened all of us. We're still puzzled by the strange signs of civilization we found in the cave. Either this planet once sheltered human life or mysterious beings still lurk in the shadows, watching us this very minute. Perhaps one day we will return to the cave and learn more. Right now we feel lucky to be alive and are bending every effort to reach the Inland Sea, our last barrier to the tropics that promises warmth and peace.

     

    Chariot scene here only: Will runs up to Don, "It's working, Don, it's working!"  Don says, "Let me see---hah, I told you, you could do it."  John tells Will to put his seat belt on. They approach the Inland Sea. JOURNEY music lightly accompanies this. Then the storm hits--JASON music and LAST WAGON music also hit--and the musical cues seem longer as do the scenes. We seem to see the back of the Chariot more often in the storm in this unaired pilot than in THERE and the unaired pilot number two. Judy has a closeup which seems present in all three versions. When they enter the whirlpool, John says, "I can't even get it into reverse."  Cue THE ENEMY BELOW music. Maureen screams more and louder. She calls Don. We see his hand holding onto the side of the car. Why couldn't they see him? The storm? It takes John longer to get up to the bubble to find Don and he has to hang on. He can't. Later, they leave the whirlpool but the storm persists. Don climbs up and bangs, yelling, "Help! Help!"  Judy pulls him in. The Chariot escapes with different musical cues--longer versions here. When the Chariot comes out, we hear very grand music--JOURNEY or DAY most likely.

     

    JOHN'S DIARY: December 8th in the year 2001: Our great adventure in the wild sea is now happily behind us. At last we've reached the tropics. The weather is warm, the vegetation lush and the stillness of the air promises peaceful days. Yet so much has happened in our short stay on this strange planet, that we take nothing for granted. We've experienced dangers unknown by Earthbound men. We breathe easily now but only for the moment. Our every instinct tells us there are wild, wonderful adventures just ahead.

     

    As they stop and give thanks, Maureen passing the Bible to John, the camera pulls out so we can see the two alien beings watching them from behind stalks or large swamp weeds. Nearby is a lake of some kind or the ocean. First--JOURNEY music to accompany the aliens. We hear DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL music during the credits. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    UNAIRED PILOT TWO:

    There is a delay in the liquid oxygen tanks loading valve. The TV commentator is better paced and there is no foreign press yet. Musical cues are very different in this one. The fire is in back of all the magma panels--a quote as seen in THE RELUCTANT STOWAWAY but NOT in the unaired pilot two. Jupiter II goes right to the planet. "Alpha Control's final analysis indicates unhappily that the spaceship has been destroyed or must be presumed LOST IN SPACE. The credits whistle (like a take off of a spaceship) into being and are accompanied by Bernard Herrman music. Will chases the ostrich amid windy sounds; Debbie bloops bloop sounds--as she did in the entire run of LOST IN SPACE, despite what errors John Peel feels he can make about the show. All the other scenes are the same up to when John says, "I don't want to leave the family alone a second longer than necessary."  It changes to Will at the radio telescope and Maureen takes the wash out to the auto washer. She works it and then takes the clothes out. A fade goes into the scene of John yelling, "C'mon kids, keep moving. We have to get out of here," which is what we hear in THERE but not in the unaired pilot number one where he says, "C'mon kids, keep moving. I want us out of here in the next five minutes."   John's flight to find Penny is shorter than in the unaired pilot number one but is the same or as close to THERE as possible. Before he takes off, he refers to the "close call they had this morning"  with the giant--thus this scene was edited out of this unaired pilot for some reason. His call to Maureen, "Don't worry, I'll find her," is the same as in THERE but "I'll find her,"  is not in the unaired pilot. There are less flying scenes in this than in the unaired pilot-in fact he doesn't hover in this second pilot. There is no point of view shot and no Debbie wandering off Penny's lap. John does not ask Penny about how she likes the ride up nor does he ask her about how the Bloop is doing. Maureen does not tell Judy to stop her tantrum. All of this is also missing from THERE WERE GIANTS IN THE EARTH.

     

    One interesting musical cue is Paul Sawtell type music from the first season of VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA as the Chariot moves through the valley just before it encounters the Cyclops. This musical cue is different from both the Unaired pilot one and THERE WERE GIANTS. We get the JOURNEY music as the Cyclops attacks and it growls like the Cyclops in THERE WERE GIANTS. There is some other type of Bernard Herrman music as the Chariot passes the dead Cyclops--very grand music and very different. This may have come from BENEATH THE 12 MILE REEF. Maureen's line of how cold it is back at the spaceship and John's answer, "Too cold!"  are here. At the camp at night, they have a fire. It seems darker but that may be the copy I saw it on. Just before we see no extra Chariot scene which is also missing from the unaired pilot number one. There is a brief shot of the Chariot moving across the desert just before the lightning bolt attack in THERE. Also missing from the "entering the cave"  sequence: no talk of the cave by Penny, no talk of Maureen and John wondering what it is, no Guy William's dub of "Debbie, c'mon Debbie," when Don is taking Debbie out, and no music for the first few minutes as they start out in their quest to see if it is safe to spend the night. The soundtrack is quiet for a few minutes, then back to DAY music. It is a different arrangement from both the unaired pilot one and from THERE. John does not ask if everybody is alright back there. The music stops as Penny goes through a cobweb, looking for Debbie. There are a few minutes of silence as Will looks for Penny. No music up to when Will falls through the trap door, "Penny help!"  We hear different music--not from DAYS now but from some other movie which can also be heard in THE TIME TUNNEL from time to time or the later VOYAGE seasons. It is also used in LOST IN SPACE-THE LOST CIVILIZATION and FOLLOW THE LEADER. There are less screams from Penny as Don and Judy find Will and Penny. Penny does not say, "Look Don."  Present in the earthquake that follows is: Don says, "Judy, stay close to Penny"  and "Don't be frightened, it'll be open in a minute."  Penny's scream as John lasers the door is the same but louder than in pilot number one. The bloop comes blooping as it did in THE HUNGRY SEA but made squeals in the unaired pilot number one. In unaired pilot number two, we hear one left over squeak from Debbie that slipped through the soundtrack. Every other time, in unaired pilot number two, Debbie bloops. At the scene that the four trapped younger Earthlings push on the stone block, it is easier than in THE HUNGRY SEA to hear what everyone is yelling, "Push harder,"  is heard. Music as they escape the cave is not as intense as unaired pilot number one but tenser than in THE HUNGRY SEA. This is not to malign THE HUNGRY SEA's score--it is fantastic.

     

    Chariot goes out. We do get the Will--it's working, Don and Don telling Will told ya you could do it--scene. John tells Will to put on his seat belt. Inland Sea time: John holds Maureen's hand before they enter the sea. Just before and during this entering the sea scene, Penny asks Will about Mars and there is actually another minute--maybe two--of a quiet soundtrack. Music starts up soon though. The storm is shorter than in unaired pilot number one and there are, surprise, different musical cues--similar and from the same sources but at different running times. When John hits the scope for Judy to move up--the sound sounds different from the unaired pilot number one but the same as in THE HUNGRY SEA. John, in the whirlpool, says, "I can't even get it on left (or unlocked"  but it is difficult to hear and is present in HUNGRY. He says, "I can't even get into reverse" in unaired pilot number one. There are less behind the Chariot scenes and almost no screams from Maureen. She also gets hit with less water as do the others. The storm and whirlpool are more like they appear in THE HUNGRY SEA. The storm is also much louder than it was in the unaired pilot number one. Don does not yell, "Halp! Halp!"  in this and does not yell it in HUNGRY. He does yell help in the unaired pilot number one. As the Chariot leaves the sea THE ENEMY BELOW music ends---as it does in THE HUNGRY SEA but in the first unaired pilot (ONE) THE ENEMY BELOW music ended as they touched the land. Not so here. The credits list Lamar Lundy as the Giant and are also cued from DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL. The two aliens watch as the Robinsons kneel, Don stand with the Bloop. We see the lake and the ocean. The aliens have beaked noses, mouths, bodies, and ornaments around their necks. Their bald heads look a great deal like the alien heads in INVADERS FROM THE 5TH DIMENSION but clearly, they are not the exact same aliens.

    JOHN'S DIARY DIFFERS ONLY HERE:

    JOHN'S DIARY: December 8th in the year 2001: Our great adventure in the wild sea is now happily behind us. At last we've reached the tropics. The weather is warm, the vegetation lush and the stillness of the air promises peaceful days. WE ARE HUMBLY GRATEFUL. Yet so much has happened in our short stay on this strange planet, that we take nothing for granted. We've experienced dangers unknown by Earthbound men. We breathe easily now but only for the moment. Our every instinct tells us there are wild, wonderful adventures just ahead.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  • HURT/HEAL: The COMPANIONS   5 years 15 weeks ago

    - Ian 15              - Zoe 13                   - Romana I 11           - Barbara 12
    - Liz 6      
              - Donna 14              
    - Vicki 7                    - The Brigadier 20 
    - Nyssa 8            
    - Stephen 6               - Jo Grant 19             - Tegan 6   
    - Polly 8              - Sarah Jane 18         - Ben 10                   - Victoria 7
    Harry 15           
    - Jamie 20 (+1)          Leela 14                - Captain Jack 5

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    21. K9 0 (-2)
    22. Rose                 23. Peri                 24. Ace                       25. Martha
    26. Turlough            27. Romana II      
    28. Mickey                  29: Adric
    30. Susan               
    31: Grace              32: Dodo                    33: Mel

  • From the Beginning: The First Doctor   5 years 15 weeks ago

    On first viewing of THE ARK, I was bored. I mean having read and watched sci fi for years, the ideas here are just too too old hat. On second viewing, quite recently and one ep at a time over time, it was much better. I mean what struck me is that the Doctor acts like a medical Doctor and is all the more better for it. Dodo seems concerned and the fate of the Earth is a nice touch. The aliens are pretty different to be worth something and their gun ray fights were a bit tedious butr interesting in that I think the sympathetic ones were killed along iwth the good ones. WHat I noticed is that the inteference of the TARDIS crew made things worse in many ways here but I guess that was reversed in the end.  The statue makes an impact. Not much else does in this but the idea that the TArdis lands in the same place but a future time from whre it was was also new to this show so that's worth mentioning. I also think the jungle set made an impact and this might be the first time (although maybe THE DALEKS had some children) that we see many children among the future crew. But please get better clothes for our future generations! :)

  • From the Beginning: The First Doctor   5 years 15 weeks ago

    When I first heard the SAVAGES on audio, I couldn't make it through the entire story and never finished it. Then I watched, years later, the reconstruction. I was able to see more of what supposedly went on and able to hear the grand music. THe music in this is, like the story, so traditinally sci fi/fantasy, that it's hard not to like it. I also like the idea that one of the aliens got the Doctor's personality into him. It was well done, even if cliche. The gas sequence is pretty terrifying, Dodo and Steven do a great job of being companions and the aliens seem powerful enough to have followed the Doc's travels! I also like the pursuit in the cave sequeence, mostly due to the music but for once the companoins are chasing someone else through a cave, in fact they are chasing an alien baddie (maybe a baddie, I also like the idea that not everyone in this is traditionaly evil but more politically motivated) through a cave : a reverse of the cliche of DW and sci fi in general. And isn't there  a scene where the humans have to smash the entire set inside the alien contorl room? That was nice! Steven's leaving scene was strange as if the Doc just foisted Steven onto the aliens and Steven wanted to stay, maybe looking for an out as he would probably have died if he stayed on too long. In fact, despite a few rough edges, I liked Steven. I mean what comp , male, would go back into a fire to save  a stuffed Teddy bear!?     

  • From the Beginning: The First Doctor   5 years 15 weeks ago

    This story seems to be played as a comedy, however, there's a lot of death as in THE ROMANS, moreso here I'd say. Some of it seems very dangerous especially to Steven, who CAN'T be an Ian against gun toting gunslingers who can kill him in an instant. TO be fair, he survives as best he can. Dodo gets kidnapped or something and she's pretty good in this story, much better than in THE TOYMAKER story. Doc Holiday was well done and the other cowboys seem to be playing things completely straight. For what it's worth, I found all of them pretty believable as killers who can shoot straight. I also, once I got used to it, didn't mind the singing interludes. It was diffrent that 's for sure. I also like the piano playing sequence and the jail stuff. Hartnell is hilarious when he says, "People keep giving me guns and I'd wish they wouldn't!"  

    There's so much else going on here I didn't find it boring and in fact, for the UK in the 60s, this is not a terrible western. I give the story credit jsut for trying probably a 6 or 7 out of 10. And a child visitor to the set became the producer of the McGann TV MOVIE. Philip Segan may have had a relative working behind the scenes here.       

  • From the Beginning: The First Doctor   5 years 15 weeks ago

    This story, the CELESTIAL TOYMAKER could have been so much more but maybe the team didn't want to scare children too much. As it is, it's a strange story and I'm glad that DW can tell a story that so surreal, a bit babyish, a bit oddball, and plenty strange. I'm also glad for a chance to change and make it so that this isn't just a space fantasy but a truly otherworld dimension and Gough and Hartnell together are magical. Still it is a bit dull and slow in places and could stand to have been trimmed by an episode. It is really one of the first surreal places the crew visit. Gough also makes one feel as if he really has the power he talks about but...a lot of this is not explained even down to the Toymaker's toys or maybe it is and I wasn't paying attention. Somehow I can't be too hard on this story as it really is unique and if you focus on it too much, it's very very disturbing. IF you don't, it's just Steven and Dodo playing games while the DOctor plays trilogic games invisble some of the time. I like that Steven was willing to sacrifice himself and it was truly upsetting that Dodo's sympathy for Cyril made her lose and have to go back to the start...and she could lose her life for that moment of being human and caring! That's scary! Still, the sameness of the episodes is annoying and one ep in particular, maybe 3, has the kitchen sequence...that was really poor. All in all, for trying I"d have to give this a 5 or 6 out of 10.       

  • EARTHSHOCK   5 years 15 weeks ago

    4

    Okay I still get a lump in my throat watching this. And no where else. Anyway, I almost cried. There are two ways of looking at this. One: Adric failed miserably and died for nothing and what was going to happen had he been there or not happened and the dinos were killed off. It would have happened if he were on board or not and I believe this is how the novelization makes it seem AND probably what Eric Saward  intended and the production team. The other way of looking at it and the more optimistic is that Adric slowed the Freighter down enough to stop it from splitting Earth in two or destroying it utterly. His interference caused the Frieigther to not have the same impact it would have had. This some small mammals survived, thus the Earth itself wasn't split in two and survived and the dinos were wiped out by Adric's moves. To be fair, almost everyone talks about the Earth being destroyed totally. Almost everyone says that the Earth will never have existed...thus the second thing holds some water. On the other hand, the Cyberleader talks of other Cybermen troops moving in and dealing with or rounding up the survivors. WHAT? So he thought Earth wouldn't be destroyed. Adric talks of the idea that the planet will still be there but unusuable. I'd like to live in denial this one time and say that Adric saved the Earth and even took out the dinos by tampering with the device but ...tha'ts not what the actors, writrs, and team say happened...I"d like to have him the hero in the end but really he just mucked it up, I guess. But on the other hand the Friegither explodes before it hits the Earth.

    There's some real sloppiness going on here: one moment a female trooper is grabbed frm behind by a Cybermaan as Scott and two other males enter the TARDIS and the next...THAT same female is entering the TARDIS with Scott and one other male. Later, one of the males stands guard for Scott and then that one is the one that is iwth himn on the bridge and the other one who went iwth Scott is seen on guard duty which where ...you get the idea. I think their names are Marshall and Brooks and they seem to change places magically from the hallway to the bridge!  On leaving the TARDIS, Scott leaves with one male and one female but she's gone again never to be seen again. And it seems Marshall was either killed by a Cyberman i the battle or was left on the station, I"m not sure which as Brooks escapes with the women and Scott. WHy they left Adric on board is beyond me, the door closed --they could have opened it and got him. 

    The bridge scenes are all tense and nicely done. The Doctor's debate with the Cyberleader is well done and he loses the debate and allows Adric to remain on board. He should have sat down and refused to go.   

    Nyssa using a gun, being forced too could go a long way emtionally and it was nice to see her get some action and go against her peaceful ways. It was also very rewarding to have the Doctor kill the Cyberman with Adric's gold badge.

    Adric's death scene is still sad and still unforgetable and the entire ending is well done and really works in terms of gripping you in a terrible state...

    I can't watch this again so I guess this is it for me.

    Also remember I didn't know how Adric would die only that he would and the tension was almost unbearable as the wounded Cyberman came up on to the bridge. Would he shoot Adric?

    All in all, a good story wiht ALOT OF production problems that should have been caught and fixed. Matthew claims he wasn't sad but in past interviews he claims he was. I wouldnt blame him.

    Adric was, as I've gone on about elsewhere a missed oppurtunity to follow a male companion from boyhood to adulthood and the team failed this utterly.     

  • From the Beginning: The First Doctor   5 years 15 weeks ago

    So a return to a more classic Sci-Fi story. Fairly enjoyable, although it does seem a little slow. It reminded me a little of of Brave New World (No children in either society!), but nothing exceptional (good or Bad) a definite improvement on some of the preceeding stories.

    And so farewell episode titles. Hello story titles with part numbers. (until 2005 when we will go back to episode titles)

    Also farewell Steven Tyler. I have not really taken to him, as well documented above (can it really be 44 episodes since you joined in the Chase?). I watch with some humor as Dodo asks the Doctor if they will see him again. The Doctor replies that with the nature of Space and Time travel you never know. I am thinking that in the Doctor's head, he is thinking 'No, cause I'm going to dump you as soon as we next land'.

    It was nice that Steven, didn't leave because a) the Doctor had kicked him off the ship b) they had got him home c) He fell in love with some girl that he had met for about 20 minutes.

    And so onto the War Machines to round out Series 3. I watched this 4 or 5 months ago before starting my from the beginning marathon. It will be interesting toi see if my perspective has changed when I rewatch the DVD.

  • daveac vblog   5 years 15 weeks ago

    Torchwood and RTD covered

    Cheers, daveac

  • Doctor Who: Podshock - Episode 155   5 years 15 weeks ago

    thanks Guy's for the plug I'm 'dead chuffed' and by the way the Rememberance of the Daleks DVD special is the same one included in the Davros box set *cheat*

  • HURT/HEAL: The COMPANIONS   5 years 15 weeks ago

    - Ian 15              - Zoe 13                   - Romana I 11           - Barbara 12
    - Liz 6      
              - Donna 14              
    - Vicki 7                    - The Brigadier 20 
    - Nyssa 8            
    - Stephen 6               - Jo Grant 19 (+1)      - Tegan 6   
    - Polly 8              - Sarah Jane 18         - Ben 10             
    Harry 15           
    - Jamie 19                 Leela 14
    -
    Victoria 7          - K9 2 (-2)                 - Captain Jack 5

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    22. Rose                 23. Peri                 24. Ace                       25. Martha
    26. Turlough            27. Romana II      
    28. Mickey                  29: Adric
    30. Susan               
    31: Grace              32: Dodo                    33: Mel

  • The Doctor's Personality   5 years 15 weeks ago

    I understand what you're saying, but you're not suppose to know every nitty-gritty detail about the Doctor, because once you do, the mystic is over.  Ultimately, the show is over cause there is nothing left to fantasy and the imagination.

    In a highly paradoxical universe of love and hate, life and death; it's pretty difficult (even for the Doctor) not being a bit hypocritical at times. Yes! The Doctor has killed--a number that probably ranges in the high billions; but he has made a conscious choice and judgement that is in the best interest of the universe as a whole and not to a small band of people.  In the Doctor's decision making process, the needs of the many--literally--outweigh the needs of the few.  As for others, like the Doctor's companions in some cases; they too have a choice whether or not to shoot a gun.  The Doctor may be "functional" in some areas and "dysfunctional" in others, but notice that it is a dysfunctional universe--and at times fighting fire with fire maybe the only thing left that's in the best interest of the universe at large.

    Many things were said about the Doctors 1-8 and the variable personalities that this single entity possesses.  Yes, many differences and few similiarities, but the same guy.  A well put phrase sums up the Doctor and has contributed to the mystery of the Doctor and why the show has been a huge success for 45 years: "In short, he's an angel and a devil. He's the best savior and the worst bastard".  A paradoxical universe may just need a paradoxical person.  The Doctor is on an even keel.

    Jim-----------------------

  • HURT/HEAL: The COMPANIONS   5 years 15 weeks ago

    - Ian 15              - Zoe 13                   - Romana I 11           - Barbara 12
    - Liz 6      
              - Donna 14              
    - Vicki 7                    - The Brigadier 20 
    - Nyssa 8            
    - Stephen 6               - Jo Grant 18 (+1)      - Tegan 6   
    - Polly 8              - Sarah Jane 18         - Ben 10             
    Harry 15           
    - Jamie 19                 Leela 14
    -
    Victoria 7          - K9 4 (-2)                 - Captain Jack 5

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    22. Rose                 23. Peri                 24. Ace                       25. Martha
    26. Turlough            27. Romana II      
    28. Mickey                  29: Adric
    30. Susan               
    31: Grace              32: Dodo                    33: Mel

  • DOCTOR IN DISTRESS   5 years 15 weeks ago

    We already have a thread for Doctor in Distress. Please go there to further the conversation. Tongue out

  • HURT/HEAL: The COMPANIONS   5 years 15 weeks ago

    - Ian 15              - Zoe 13                   - Romana I 11           - Barbara 12
    - Liz 6      
              - Donna 14              
    - Vicki 7                    - The Brigadier 20 
    - Nyssa 8            
    - Stephen 6               - Jo Grant 17             - Tegan 6 (+1)  
    - Polly 8              - Sarah Jane 18         - Ben 10 (-2)             
    Harry 15           
    - Jamie 19                 Leela 14
    -
    Victoria 7          - K9 6                       - Captain Jack 5

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    22. Rose                 23. Peri                 24. Ace                      25. Martha
    26. Turlough            27. Romana II      
    28. Mickey                  29: Adric
    30. Susan               
    31: Grace              32: Dodo                    33: Mel

  • Torchwood: Asylum   5 years 15 weeks ago

    Well I managed to download the first and second radio plays, however the third one I'm getting a not allowed error :-(

    Curiously I can still download the second radio play still now.

    Does anyone have the third?

    Thanks

    Don't worry, sorted it out :-D

  • HURT/HEAL: The COMPANIONS   5 years 15 weeks ago

    - Ian 15              - Zoe 13                   - Romana I 11           - Barbara 12
    - Liz 6      
              - Donna 14              
    - Vicki 7                    - The Brigadier 20 
    - Nyssa 8            
    - Stephen 6               - Jo Grant 17             - Tegan 5  
    - Polly 8              - Sarah Jane 18         - Ben 12             
    Harry 15(+1)     
    - Jamie 19                 Leela 14
    -
    Victoria 7          - K9 6                       - Captain Jack 5(-2)

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    22. Rose                 23. Peri                 24. Ace                      25. Martha
    26. Turlough            27. Romana II      
    28. Mickey                  29: Adric
    30. Susan               
    31: Grace              32: Dodo                    33: Mel

  • HURT/HEAL: The COMPANIONS   5 years 15 weeks ago

    - Ian 15              - Zoe 13                   - Romana I 11           - Barbara 12
    - Liz 6      
              - Donna 14              
    - Vicki 7                    - The Brigadier 20 
    - Nyssa 8            
    - Stephen 6               - Jo Grant 17             - Tegan 5 (-2) 
    - Polly 8              - Sarah Jane 18         - Ben 12 (+1)
    Harry 14      
         
    - Jamie 19                 Leela 14
    -
    Victoria 7          - K9 6                       - Captain Jack 7

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    22. Rose                 23. Peri                 24. Ace                      25. Martha
    26. Turlough            27. Romana II      
    28. Mickey                  29: Adric
    30. Susan               
    31: Grace              32: Dodo                    33: Mel

  • Torchwood Radio Plays Available for 7 Days   5 years 15 weeks ago

    Well I tried to download part three (The Dead Line) today - it was locked out to non-UK residents.

    Oh well what can I do but listen and not download.

    BBC, you need to stop the region blocking.Tongue out It doesn't make sense to do things that way.

  • From the Beginning: The First Doctor   5 years 15 weeks ago

    Well, I found this the opposite of the Massacre, I was not particularly impressed with the first three episodes, but thuroughly enjoyed the final one.

    Dodo was great in this story, but I found Steven annoying and wet (he certainly is no Ian). In fact Dodo reminded me of Jessie from Toy Story 2.

    Doc Holiday was a great character, up to no good, yet likeable. Everyone else was unsympathetic, including the Earps. Hartnell was pretty good in this Story and took the Doctorly stance of violence never solves anything.

    A 7/10 but mainly for the final episode.

  • From the Beginning: The First Doctor   5 years 15 weeks ago

    I had been looking forward to this story, as I have often heard people talking enthusiastically about it. However, I found it somewhat long and un interesting.

    Essentially, the Doctor was out of the story (I have read that this was because Hartnell's contract had ended and the producer intended him to reappear as a different actor - Ultimately the shows management was replaced and Hartnell's contract extended).

    This left us with Dodo and Steven in a series of overlong 'puzzles'. These all seemed to be drawn out too long, it would have been better if the toymaker's side only resorted to cheating if our heroes were about to win, rather than just cheating from the outset.

    Why does the toymaker, want to play the games if the other side has no chance of winning, he states he is tired of this world and would like to move onto the next one.

    The Doctor's solution from escaping the final dilema  was the only truely great good moment in the story.

    The mystery of the toymaker is interesting but is ultimately never explained in later stories (unless the Big Finish version of the unmade Colin Baker stories has a big reveal in it).

    Nice to see Carmen ('allo 'allo) Silvera as the queen of hearts/clown/cook.

    I am finding the serials of series three a bit weaker in general than the two previous series. 

  • From the Beginning: The First Doctor   5 years 15 weeks ago

    Well for the first two episodes of the story it seems like the TARDIS has landed on the Golgafrincham's B Ark, because it is universally populated with awful b-movie actors. The level of overacting by the humans is just unbelievable.

    The only nice touch in the story is returning to the same place (though one presumes it has actually moved through space over the centuries) 700 years later for a separate yet connected story.

    I found both parts of the story quite weak (typical 1960's sci-fi twaddle) but at least the acting in the second half was slightly less OTT.

    It is good to know that in the fucture cataclysmic disasters will not kill us, but merely turn us into non-corporeal super beings.

    Another 5 out of 10.

    BTW Dodo seemed to be wearing and Adric style tunic for most of the story, though I don't find her as bad as I was expecting from the recent companion poll voting. Previously I had only seen her in the War Machines, where her character cannot be fairly judged.

  • Torchwood Radio Plays Available for 7 Days   5 years 16 weeks ago

    Asylum can be added to a playlist on UTube.  This is free to everyone if they are a subscriber to UTube. This is not ideal, but at least you can listen to it at your leisure.  Put Asylum and Golden Age( Thursday's play) on my playlist last night

  • HURT/HEAL: The COMPANIONS   5 years 16 weeks ago

    - Ian 15              - Zoe 13                   - Romana I 11           - Barbara 12
    - Liz 6      
              - Donna 14              
    - Vicki 7                    - The Brigadier 20 (+1) 
    - Nyssa 8            
    - Stephen 6               - Jo Grant 17             - Tegan 7 
    - Polly 8              - Sarah Jane 18         - Ben 11
    Harry 14      
         
    - Jamie 19                 Leela 14
    -
    Victoria 7          - K9 6                       - Captain Jack 7 (-2)

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    22. Rose                 23. Peri                 24. Ace                      25. Martha
    26. Turlough            27. Romana II      
    28. Mickey                  29: Adric
    30. Susan               
    31: Grace              32: Dodo                    33: Mel

  • The Doctor's Personality   5 years 16 weeks ago

    Another thing that mostly Doc4 has but 2,5,6, 7, and somewhat in 8 have is HYPERNESS. You often feel that you're on a roller coaster ride with him. He points in one direction but goes in another , rambles on about scienfitic things, historical things, time things on and one, some of which makes some sense, sometimes condrdicting himself and others in the same rmable. He moves fast, whirls, turns, runs, slides on his knees, flies through doors, kicks at boxes when angry, etc you know HYPER  mostly in a posotive way 

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